PlaneShift Vault

[Josellis]

Hello

I am happy to tell you that my website on PlaneShift just opened 

It is having a redesign ... so if you are good in webdesigning, please go on my site and post your images 



Hope that you will all enjoy it, PlaneShift Vault



Thank You

[Kixie]

It's.. down for me. 

[Josellis]

ehhh, weird ... try THIS link instead. Maybe it will work better ...

[Karyuu]

Um um um. I am really concerned about the type of public information you plan to have on there, particularly regarding quests. We don't allow any such thing on public sites, so I urge you to reconsider. Anything that we ask people to avoid posting on these official PS boards should not be posted on any other public board. I understand your intentions, but sometimes even the best can have unpleasant results.

I also don't understand the point of having a Bug forum - all bug reports should either be made here, in-game, or in BugTracker. That way we can keep up with them and offer appropriate fixes. Giving people yet another place to go to may become too confusing.

Just replying based on what I see so far.

[DaveG]

Yeah, don't take in bug reports unless you can do something about them. 

[Josellis]

The bug forum has nothing to do with the bugs of PS. It is if the ppl find bugs on my site.


And should I just put down my site (I can do it in one simple click ...) or what? because you don't seem very happy at all that players exchange their information.

If you want, I can add some text to the agreement (which you must accept to register) that "The use of the information provided by PlaneShift Vault will make the game less enjoyable" or something like that. And if you are worried that it will diminish the interaction between players, well I think you're wrong. Cause they will be always be people asking information in the game. And the buddy list is a list of friends, not mentors.



Anyway, I spent a lot of time to put this site up, so I hope that it will last more then 1 day ...

[Karyuu]

The fact is, Talad himself has stated quite clearly before that he will not allow such information to be spread publically, on forums or sites. You are free to share it among friends, but not like this. No disclaimers will make it any better. Maybe you can use your site for other purposes? You would not have been the first to think of doing something like this, putting together a "Guide of All Guides," but it falls very strongly into the "public spoilers" category that the PlaneShift team takes a strong stance against.

[Josellis]

k, well what should I do of it ? just put it in the bin ?

and if players want to "spoil" the game by having information via a website, can't they do it ?

[Karyuu]

Just remove the Quest section, and it should be fine.

and if players want to "spoil" the game by having information via a website, can't they do it ?

If we find it, we will ask them to remove the information. The PlaneShift team has every right and every power to enforce that request as well.

Josellis, I understand that you want to provide as much help as possible to players, but this is the wrong way and there are much better community projects and sites that you can spend your time on - sites that won't make people angry, due to rule-breaking.

The bug forum has nothing to do with the bugs of PS. It is if the ppl find bugs on my site.

Bug 
Bugs in the forum and on PlaneShift

[Josellis]

I just made the quest section invisible to anyone not in the "game spoilers" group, cause it is the right of the player to spoil the game for them if they want

*edit*

Site ...


... closed

Please avoid posting two or more successive posts before others have replied. Just edit your last post to add new information. Thanks! --Karyuu

Karyuu, I started writing the first one before you submited your last post, and after, I submitted my other post thinking that it wasn't directly after one of mines

[LARAGORN]

I think it is a shame you closed your site 
I understand the "spoiler" problem that could have developed, but it could have been avoided.
There are many was people can share info without giving away specifics.

Oh well it was your choice to make.
I wish you best of luck on your next project.

[Josellis]

I more "disabled" it then actually closed it and I can re-open it in one little click


Only I need to see if the Administrator will accept that, and if not what should I do to make it acceptable. The whole site is about exchanging information

[Karyuu]

I'm not an administrator myself - just a forum mod/GM/team artist.

We prefer it if people exchange information in the game itself :} If there is a guide for everything and on everywhere, people stop interacting in-game as much and miss out on the multiplayer part of PlaneShift, focusing instead of PPs, trainers, quick quests answers to get the rewards, etc. As I said, share this information between a few friends - just don't make a giant "exchanging information" site for it.

How about real how-to guides in terms of commands? How to make money? How to roleplay? How to create guilds? Things that won't spoil the game, but explain how it works?

[Josellis]

I know another game and having a forum with quest guides  and other guides didn't affect the gameplay AT ALL.

people stop interacting in-game as much and miss out on the multiplayer part of PlaneShift

No they don't a friendship isn't only on giving information to the other (that's called teaching). And sometimes, people become "stalkers" which isn't very good.

focusing instead of PPs, trainers, quick quests answers to get the rewards, etc.

Do you know what a real MMO is ? Well it isn't just chatting between people and seeing characters move on the screen which are animated by people. It is to do things together, interacting (not just in the way of chatting). One thing you could do is make much more difficult places to get there and you would only be able to go there if you are with friends. And not difficult in a way that it is hard to find your way, in the way that there are many powerfull creatures attacking you on the way.

How to make money? How to roleplay? How to create guilds? Things that won't spoil the game

I could do that, but it would all fit on an A4 page:
How to make money? Mine platinum or gold
How to create guilds? Read the manual
How to roleplay? Simple, act as if you were IN the game, not playing the game.



[EDIT] I re-openned my website so that people can look at it. I removed the section "Quest" (like you said earlier in this post)

[Karyuu]

I know another game and having a forum with quest guides  and other guides didn't affect the gameplay AT ALL.

I'm not going to argue any further. I've told you our rules about sharing quest information, and I hope that you respect them.

Do you know what a real MMO is ? Well it isn't just chatting between people and seeing characters move on the screen which are animated by people. It is to do things together, interacting (not just in the way of chatting).

Thanks for the enlightenment ;)

One thing you could do is make much more difficult places to get there and you would only be able to go there if you are with friends. And not difficult in a way that it is hard to find your way, in the way that there are many powerfull creatures attacking you on the way.

PlaneShift is still in development. We have a lot of ideas to make gameplay more exciting, but not enough time and man power to do them all at once.

I could do that, but it would all fit on an A4 page:
How to make money? Mine platinum or gold
How to create guilds? Read the manual
How to roleplay? Simple, act as if you were IN the game, not playing the game.

Where do you find trainers? Ask in-game. There, I just summarized the entire site ;)