/report and even more exciting!!!!!

[Karyuu]

Ah, then you have people harassing newbies who can't do anything about it.

It's not about just keeping the filter up-to-date - people bypass it through using spaces, numbers, other characters, etc.

[Raven Poeffie]

Yes, I know that. That's why you have to have an up-to-date file of words used to bypass it. It's going to be hard but I'd be glad to help!!

Newbies cant do anything about it.. ok, but new people mostly arent that quickly aware of the full gameplay. Mabye if you had a tutourial players could follow in-game and then they can do whatever they want. OR they choose for a waiting time for shouts/auctions/reports.

[DaveG]

It always confuses me when people start talking about privacy and rights on our server.  You have none.

You only have an expectation of privacy in a private place.  (which includes private communications)  This is our server, not yours, so you have no privacy.  We can do whatever we want.  That being said, we're talking about logging public chat here so it doesn't even apply.

By the way, if anyone uses /report every 3 seconds spamming GMs with logs, there's no reason they shouldn't get kicked or banned if they keep it up.  Spamming in any form like that isn't allowed, even if it's only spamming the GMs.  (ditto for people creating thousands of petitions)

[Ralas]

For the first time that I can recall, I disagree with Seytra.  I think it's a good idea to log the reportee as well as the reporter.  Why?  To prevent entrapment.  I don't know that this is a big issue, but it is certainly a possibility.  If we only see a players responses, we are missing what may have provoked those responses.  I don't see that privacy is a big concern here, partly for the reasons cited by DaveG, but also because the person who does the reporting is surely aware of what they are doing.  They are choosing to allow themselves to be logged as a condition of having someone else logged.

[Karyuu]

Bereror is going to change the system around to record/send the logs of the person being reported - but not just what they say, what they hear too. So all public chat coming in and out of their client will be saved, to know if there is provoking going on or similar.

[Raven Poeffie]

It's not that kind of abuse I was talking about.

Q: if there is a logfile kept for the next five minutes, and that person reports again after one minute, what happens?

[Kerol]

I think we need to test out what works best there.
Either a /report on the target with a clear WARNING that he is being logged or a quiet /report on the one who feels abused.. latter can be seen as handing the logs
of the victim to the GMs, without chance of altering.
The warning would have the psychological effect I described in the according wishlist thread, the quiet /report is rather sneaky.. and could backfire at the one who wants
to report, in any way.
But I agree that /report on the reporter might be less abusive.

Maybe its best to log both, reporter _and_ target, plus warning..

[DaveG]

Raven:  It just says "Previous logging is still active." and nothing happens.

I think just logging the reportee is just fine.  It'll have whatever was heard and any other portions that might've been missed.  I think the warning is also fine, but I could be wrong about that one.  (seeing as any idiot then has the ability to put that warning on someone's screen)

[Easton]

does the warning tell the reported who reported them? 

ex. "you have been reported by "X""

[Karyuu]

That would be a very bad idea, and thus I doubt anyone would code that in.

[Raven Poeffie]

I'd also give warning codes, so you can classify the type of report

offensive language / not-RP and bug abuse are diffrent and might all be reported.

/report target nr (optional) "warning.."

[Myrthe]

ok, i havent seen PS in its true forn quite yet, but on most games, the report command is never used. who cares if someone cusses you out? are you going to take that to heart? if you do you need to stop playing MMORPGs because, hey, it happens. and who cares if it does? the PS staff isnt out there to put out fires, they are there to help us RP and improve the game, find bugs, etc. someone can flame you all they want and you shouldnt take offense to it, thats i sign of weakness.

just my two cents

[Karyuu]

The game is meant to be played by all ages - cursing does not belong, and GMs will prevent it as much as possible. It does not help RP. If you can brush it off, that's great - but it's a mistake to expect that of everyone.

[dewed]

of course if the annoyer was right in front of the annoyee, annoying them, I think it'd be pretty obvious who reported them 

[Easton]

you don't have to be next to a person to hear an offensive /say, or /shout, or /auction.

in fact, you can be rather far away for some of those.

i say you should log both reporter and reported because what if the reporter just arrived and heard the offensive language. but the reported had been doing it for 8 minutes before the reporter arrived. if you log only the reporter, then you may only get one small line of offensive chat, whereas if you log the reported, you get the past five minutes of their offensive behaviour.