Author Topic: Truly Evil Bad Guys (Read 2099 times)

comanighttrain · « **on:** July 01, 2006, 10:25:02 pm »

When the new release comes out, i want to make a truly evil bad guy. If you were thinking in terms of D&D, he would be neutral evil.

So few People play evil characters but i think it would be interesting. However i need some advice, what evil things can i do? what can i do to make Good RP'rs want to come and thwart me?

Still thinking of a character model (Why he does it, what he wants).

minetus · « **Reply #1 on:** July 01, 2006, 10:31:24 pm »

you could perhaps play a role of a politic, maybe interfeare with some guilds afairs or something like that (if the guild/s agree ooc)
or a spy thing etc.. alot of possibility's

Karyuu · « **Reply #2 on:** July 01, 2006, 10:31:59 pm »

Some past threads that may be worth a read:

Harassment for roleplay
Roleplaying advice for a truly evil character
The grand balance of good vs evil

Delsabor Nash · « **Reply #3 on:** July 01, 2006, 10:32:55 pm »

Well, a great reason for evil is a demented/ tormented childhood. Another is just a sick perverse pleasure he gets from being evil. Redemtion and revenge are usual causes however. He may want to get back at theworld for how he had to live as a child, or how they treat him like an outcast, or he may just want to see people suffer.

You cant do all that much now, other than dueling and killing people. Later on there will be backstabbing, stealth, and other far more interesting things.

zhai · « **Reply #4 on:** July 01, 2006, 10:45:56 pm »

Opposite to what you may think, there are plenty of bad guys in Yliakum. You can check the guild section to find evil groups your future character might want to join. Now, you might want him/her to have a purpose or reason to back up their evil doing. Childhood trauma and hunger for revenge, a particular hate towards a specific group (*cough* Dwarvesbane *cough*) or person (maybe another guild if you manage to work it out with them), or a dark cult for some evil god or demigod (mind the game settings and history though), etc. Now, you gotta think whether you should be talking ic or [ooc]. you might need some help as a player but your char may never ask a "good" guy for it... so, ooc might help you out. of course, being in an evil guild might make people not welcome you (as in not sharing a rogue, not talking to you in the mines, and so on...) despite the [ooc], so be ready to deal with that.

In general, bad guys are more demanding in roleplay but they can be a lot of fun. I say you give it a try and don't be shy to ask in-game for [ooc] advice from more experienced players if you need a hand with your own rp. Now, walking around looking evil isn't enough and it can go stale after a while. You'll have more fun if you work the guidelines for your evil deeds out with someone else (another evil character or your direct enemy).

Well, i hope you find this useful and have a good time in the dark side!

zhai

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comanighttrain · « **Reply #5 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:23:19 pm »

nice replys:)

My character has been physically tortured in childhood for no good reason. During play he is going to go out of his way to cause suffering. His end goal is to physically torment every other Character in the game.

Actions will include misguiding, stealing, conning, murder etc.

Karyuu · « **Reply #6 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:24:17 pm »

Sounds like there are interesting times ahead ;) Good luck!

Waylander · « **Reply #7 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:30:17 pm »

Best thing for an evil person to do is ally themselves with me.

That's Nurahk ingame.

I'm not saying join the Dark Empire...just ally with me...We'll have fun, trust me

...

Granted, there is only one person who can say (IC) they know I have done a bad thing...but, that's because I'm secretive.

Sorry Zorbels

zorbels · « **Reply #8 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:31:37 pm »

I am not sure if you will go through all the information in the thread Karyuu posted. It took me awhile to find the only posting I have made on playing evil in planeshift. So I am gonna post it here for you to read. Hope it helps.

Roleplaying an evil character

Playing an evil character is very hard to do from what I hear from a certain few I have had the pleasure of roleplaying with. I don't think the game is anywhere near the point where you can play evil (Not anyones fault really). There just isn't enough information and with easy access about this sort of topic. The best suggestion I can come up with from my own personal experience is this:

If you are going to roleplay an evil character make sure you are doing it with players in the game who understand the difference between roleplay and real life to start off with. Establish your character with friends aka enemies to start and those friends should be the first to stand up and say when a newbie is around that you are not truly that way behind the character but you are just playing an evil character. This way it sets an example for the new comer and they realise that it isn't just the evil character ok with this but that his friends aka enemies support him/her in this behavior. Then the new comer may not feel signaled out with the behavoir. People tend to accept what is if there are large amounts of people supporting it. Most people are sheep ... what can I say.

Second of all know when to stop being your bad self. If a newbie is taking serious offence then don't continue the roleplay. Send a /tell apologising and then make note of that person so that you don't have them involved in your roleplays until they get the understanding of how the world works. Once that is accomplished then maybe invited them to roleplay with you again. I have watched evil character just push and prod a person and not quit. It surprises me that this evil character is shocked when reported.

Evil characters CAN petition too. If you have explained to a newbie that you were just in character and that you meant no offence and they still follow you around and get on your case, well you do have the right to complain about that as it is harrassment. This will aviod your hand getting smacked by a GM as they will have the information that this "good" character is just taking things out of context.

Be willing to accept that you will not be everyones favorite person if you decide to play evil. Don't be surprised if you walk into the tavern and are ignored because you have a rep for being MR bad. Also be willing to accept the game doesn't seem to accommodate at this point evil characters, so there is going to be complications with certain situations. Don't bring it to the forums and freak out if you run into this problem. Instead think about the problem and bring it to the forums worded in a way that you explain the problem and your ideas on how to fix it, or your lack of ideas but that you just wanted to point out the problem.

Understand that evil just isn't stealing or cusing someone out or just being a jack ass. An evil character could be the best friend beside you who seems loyal and trust worthy but is spying on your guild and taking the information to your enemies. I would give more example but at the moment I can't think of any.

Over all playing evil should be fun. If it starts to become a big thing and you have a horde of ticked off people chasing you but you are in real life irritated and just want to be left alone .... well that is why we have a choice to have different character. Take a step away from the computer or log on as someone else and deal with the situation when you and others have calmed down. Trying to deal with people angry won't accomplish much and will just be irritating in the end.

And that is my two trias .....

Waylander · « **Reply #9 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:39:29 pm »

Hmm, the main challenge with evil players is knowing when you want people to think you are evil...and when you should be evil.

This is a roleplay world, granted, but that doesn't mean that so and so is having a really bad day. If somebody is reacting more than you thought they would to your roleplay you have to /tell them, you may think they are just roleplaying but, for all you know they could have lost a loved one IRL. And people will always take out their anger on you.

It's a hard life being evil, but it's rewarding.

zhai · « **Reply #10 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:41:37 pm »

Great advice Zorbs!

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@ Karyuu: how about putting the ideas on the subject in a sticky? We can always use more bad guys in-game (+ it's always good for newcomers to know how to tell the difference).

zhai

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Karyuu · « **Reply #11 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:43:06 pm »

Perhaps reorganize the roleplaying guide and add it in there?

zhai · « **Reply #12 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:48:28 pm »

yeah. that sticky could use some organizing i think...

zorbels · « **Reply #13 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:49:14 pm »

If there is anything that will help in my post by all means use it. I would love to help.

Delsabor Nash · « **Reply #14 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:53:46 pm »

I agree, if there was a guild stickied up on the boards so that new players could tell the difference between a bad player and an evil character, which would allow for evil characters to be played with less difficulty. It would be very good to broaden the horizon of Planeshift to stop EVERYONE from beign the "generous knight" ect.