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Morele

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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2006, 04:23:45 am »
Yes, i mean, news of the impending wipe is not asking for too much and it would help...but asking for them to not wipe the characters at all is a stretch...but something alot of peopel i think would support. I mean, i think it would be more work for them to wipe every tria, skill, and item off every character...but it would be very efficient. There would be no "Lost Name Crisis" and stories could continue to their natural end, and everyone would be happy campers.

They wouldn't go around and manually remove it from every character.  If they were to do it at all, it would be done via script.  That's why I was wondering if the information of the characters original creation was saved (all those bits and pieces you spend CP on).

Mass amnesia? Easy RP way out... everyone got sick and forgets who they were!

I don't think that would work so good... That would be more likely if they kept all items and stats, but lost every scrap of RP history. :P

I suggesed the black mist, because it besides being really cool to run into hydlaa and start shouting "The wipe is coming!", but then we could say that everyone had x years of experince striped from them by a misterious black fog.
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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2006, 07:53:13 am »
I guess everything is stored like on a MySQL database. A MySQL database's structure is very simple: it has a series of columns named "Name | skill1 | skill2 | str | etc." and every line would have "Timanel | 6,13 | 4,35 | 103 | etc.". So it would be very easy to empty the column skill1, skill2, str, etc. with a simple script or even a simple command ...

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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2006, 03:12:07 pm »
We could say that Laanx came down and announced that everyone was getting far too greedy and to teach them a lesson he destroyed all their weapons, armor, money, etc. and made them forget all their combat knowledge.

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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2006, 03:25:00 pm »
We could say that Laanx came down and announced that everyone was getting far too greedy and to teach them a lesson he destroyed all their weapons, armor, money, etc. and made them forget all their combat knowledge.

This sounds great to me... IC and very "god like". Genious suggestion, Siteri  :)


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I agree Siteri, I think those are some of the real reasons too, which makes your idea even better  :thumbup:
« Last Edit: July 03, 2006, 09:08:14 pm by Marra »
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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2006, 05:15:15 pm »
Not only that, but I'm pretty sure some wipes are actually made for that reason.

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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2006, 10:13:12 am »
I guess everything is stored like on a MySQL database. A MySQL database's structure is very simple: it has a series of columns named "Name | skill1 | skill2 | str | etc." and every line would have "Timanel | 6,13 | 4,35 | 103 | etc.". So it would be very easy to empty the column skill1, skill2, str, etc. with a simple script or even a simple command ...

It may be easy to empty the stats, but it's not a good idea.  Imain starting with 0 strength (inability to do damage), 0 health (countinuious, and instantanious death), etc.  ;D

Besides, at the character creation process, you get a unique set of stats depending on what you spent your CP on.  Unless these initial stats can be reinstated into the character (and easily), It wouldn't probably be more likely that they'll just clear the data base, and let the players recreate their characters how they want.

We could say that Laanx came down and announced that everyone was getting far too greedy and to teach them a lesson he destroyed all their weapons, armor, money, etc. and made them forget all their combat knowledge.

Typical god-like character.  Someone messes up, and all of humanity is punished.  ;D :devil:  Not a bad Idea though.  It would fit in well considering how after the wipe, more players will come, they'll start being "bad", and there will be more wipes to come.  It even has some truth to it, since the more bugged items are used, exploits exploited, etc, the sooner a wipe will occur.

I supose in theory, if every player played nice, reported exploits, handed over bugged equiptment, limited PLingand never gained/used an unfair advantage against another player, a wipe would not be neccessary, hence we would be "pleasing the gods".  Of course this won't happen on an absolute scale, so we will "incure the rath of the gods", and the wipe will take place.  :)  Quite tidy.

BTW, what's wrong with gods rath being in the form of mist? No one seems to like the mist.  :(

EDIT:  The thought just occured to me, what would happen if we tried to have an amnesty day, where the dev's/GM's would demand the overly powerfull items/people with stats "so high" come forward, and if sufficient people did so, a wipe wouldn't be neccessary? :woot: ...or are the technical reasons for a wipe?
« Last Edit: July 04, 2006, 10:18:35 am by Morele »
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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2006, 01:18:49 pm »
Whipe away my money and weapons..

 BUT HANDS OFF my mugs and ALE  :P

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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2006, 03:11:32 pm »
I dont know about anyone else, but I'm kinda looking forwards to a new wipe. I'd probably Pick up Where i left off with Lokii again, and then I would experiment with  other characters, makes some new ones. because not many know  my alternate characters it doesnt really matter much.
Lokii is there for good, but I'm flexible on the rest. And i'm looking forwards to actually going into this small "phase" of  redeveloping.

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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2006, 03:53:51 pm »
My character Ganinos has been around for almost 1 1/2 years now.  We have had one complete wipe during that time.  The devs did give us advanced notice (over a week) before that wipe took place.  After they announced the wipe, most people quit hunting.  There was a lot of RPing going on during that time.  Bodacher & I put on Dash & Bash contests to give people something else to do too. 

The devs did announce the only complete wipe I have seen.  This doesn't mean they will announce the next one, but they have done it before.

Speculating that another wipe is just around the corner, IMHO, doesn't do any good at all.  Ever since that complete wipe, there have been people (not devs or GMs) who said that another wipe was going to happen in a matter of weeks.  This has happened 2 or 3 times that I remember.  None of those wipes took place.  I wouldn't listen to any player that predicts a wipe.  The only time I would believe that a wipe was upon us is if the devs announced it as they have done at least once in the past.

It doesn't really matter to me if they announce a wipe or not.  Wipes will happen.  The devs have stated this plenty of times.  After all this is a pre-alpha game & wipes both complete & partial are to be expected.   If they announce a wipe before hand, great.  If not oh well no problem.

IC response to a complete wipe: "I told you the outworlders have strange powers & to beware.  Look what they have done to us?"
"Beware the outworlder surface dwellers, beware".  "These outworlders have created another great cataclysm".

Those that have heard my "Alien" stories, I now use "outworlders" instead of "Aliens".   The stories are the same, just now use a different word per request.

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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #54 on: July 04, 2006, 07:36:58 pm »
I suppose they will announce it, as they did last time.
Though I doubt there will be many troubles, I think it is a very good idea to have a "before - after" list of names to minimize the eventual problems.

I think for that it only takes a thread on the forums in which one lists the names of charnames to be reserved.
If you really want to keep an alt anonymous, create a new acc (maybe even with that name) on the forum for that. Shouldn't be too much hassle.

When the wipe has come and an actual problem with the identity comes up, just send a PM to a GM or mod. Only the one who posted the name can also send the PM.

If someone doesn't recreate the char but wants to start with a new char and name, it's also easy to modify the own post and state (after the wipe) "I'm now known as..".


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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2006, 07:43:31 pm »
I wouldn't be too offended if the wipe wasn't announced. When I made Kae'lith I wasn't exactly too skilled at creating and developing her, so if I had to do it all over again it would only make her better. And since everyone would be wiped, everyone would be in the same boat as me. ^^

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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #56 on: July 04, 2006, 09:03:57 pm »
I like saying Laanx did it better than saying the outworlders did. But we're all going to have to pick one or else it won't work. It can't be BOTH after all...

...or can it?!

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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #57 on: July 04, 2006, 09:14:48 pm »
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It can't be BOTH after all...

...or can it?!
Ohh, it can..

Last time everyone had their very own explanations for the wipe and that wasn't much of trouble in the long run.
Only bigger problem last time was the belated Mac release and people whining about their lost skills.


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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #58 on: July 04, 2006, 09:27:19 pm »
When i first created my character, i didnt know how to do it very well and i didnt use about 40 points of the start points.  :sweatdrop: So i would like to make him better, which would come with the wipe.

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Re: If your character was wiped...
« Reply #59 on: July 04, 2006, 10:24:44 pm »
My "Outworlder" stories actually go back to before the last complete wipe.  That just added to it.  But, there is nothing wrong with people believing that the changes came about by different means.  If someone wants to believe that it was the Gods, cool.  If someone else wants to believe it was the result of some magical accident, ok.  My character believes the "Outworlders" are responsible.  That is the great thing about beliefs, you don't need any proof, and people can believe differently about the same thing.  I don't think we need to have one unified explaination.  Just as in the real world people have different beliefs, so should our characters.  It makes for a richer world.

But, Gan has acutally seen things that lead to his beliefs in the "Outworlders".  Now, he blames them for just about every unusual thing that happens in-game.

Gan, "Long Beard"
Leader White Dragon Clan
Dragon High Master of the Dragon Council
All evil comes from within,
Not from without,
Therefore, the fist step along the Holy Warrior path,
Is to recognize thyself as thy first enemy.
Excerpt from the Book of the Holy Warrior