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Re: TALAD!
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2006, 10:46:57 pm »
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ThomPhoenix, Steel Blue is definitely not version 0.3.015
I didn't mean that.
I meant that there won't be a super major release like Crystal Blue's one for Steel Blue.
Some day an update will come that just replaces the CB intro screen with an SB one.
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2006, 11:50:35 pm »
Then I must've played MB in another life....

Well we're probably going to play the final product in another life, supposing that PS still exists, and that the developpers haven't abandonned the project.
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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2006, 12:50:54 am »
Or are still alive :P
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2006, 04:20:19 am »
The Talad temple is (I believe) in Dsar Sarraghi.

Wait... if the Talad temple isn't going to be included in this update, does that mean no Dsar Sarraghi either? Or does it just mean that the outside might be there but the door into the temple will be closed?

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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2006, 05:51:03 am »
If it was possible then this update would open all the dsars, and all the levels of Yliakum, and the stone labyrinth, and the surface and...
But due to some bugs, some features are not ready to be released...Only the "almost" working ones are part of the update. The other ones are still planned to be released "soon".
As always:
Wait and see...

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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2006, 11:58:15 am »
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Don't be dissuaded, young soul, by the lack of a mere temple. Some (me including) have already met Talad  - or at least one of his manifestations as a Kran - so, I can assure you he's real. ...and you know what, he seems like a very nice lad indeed!
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Don't worry ...we'll live to see SB ...and, I think even the 1.0 :D

IMHO what we see in updates is only a fraction of what's done for PS. For once, a lot of stuff isn't plainly seen by the average player (like, new rules, server, AI, etc.). And even from the things that can be plainly seen, a lot aren't implemented in the update when it occurs - simply because some more work needs to be done on it, more harmonising with the whole idea/world etc.

I'll gladly wait ...you can't rush perfection! :]

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Re: TALAD!
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2006, 01:00:04 pm »
Hello, everybody. You can find the kran's Talad Temple picture i  main site. This is the link http://www.planeshift.it/razkran.htm.
Keep in mind, that this is just concept art. I think in future it will have some modyfication.

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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2006, 02:39:16 pm »
I don't think that Kran's temple in the races' section should be the Talad temple mentioned in Yliakum's history. Reasons:

1) That's showing Kran art, and Talad temple was made by himself, so it would be unachievable by mortals.

2) Unless I didn't get the picture's proportions, I believe Talad's temple should be HUGE, I mean, he did it himself to show off his power - and to make fun with Laanx, we may add...  ;D

In the other hand, Talad's temple description is kinda similar with that concept art:

"Talad retired to meditate and, with the power of his glyphs, to plan the most majestic fortress ever built, a building that would show the power of the glyphs and the strength of the stone, the element from which the Kran were created."

So that temple could be, afterall, Talad's, but the drawing - wich is of course great, my congrat's to whoever made it - should show some proportion to create a better impact. Also, if it's "the" temple, than it surely shouldn't be in the Kran art section (maybe in a Kran dedicated art section...   :))

So, actually, I'm in doubt about this and would like someone to explain it, please.... Thank you in advance!

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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2006, 03:49:11 pm »
Dear, Alvarez. This picture represents kran's Talad temple cause i drew it with this meaning :D
And even if it wasn't my work, krans as Talad's creatures couldn't have other temples beside the ones dedicated to Talad. Is it clear now?
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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2006, 06:57:18 pm »
Dear, Alvarez. This picture represents kran's Talad temple cause i drew it with this meaning

Wel, then my congratulations go to you!  :) It's great concept art coherent with the settings.


And even if it wasn't my work, krans as Talad's creatures couldn't have other temples beside the ones dedicated to Talad. Is it clear now?

Well, not so clear. First because I always though that Talad's temple, certainly inspired in Kran's nature, was made by Talad himself - like I said earlier. So it wouldn't be, in fact, made by Krans. But one thing you said called my attention: it isn't possible to exist Laanx Kran followers? I mean, according to Yliakum's history,

"When the Xacha began to build the temple to Laanx, Talad felt control of his people's hearts slipping away. Many of his people, curious and charmed by Galeran's power, began to workship Laanx and to forget what Talad had made for them."

And that was the reason why Talad decided to made a temple for him in the first place. Because some of his followers began to devote themselves to Laanx. So we could have several Krans worshipping Laanx instead of Talad. Just not the most of them.

Another thing to make myself more understandable. When I speak of temples, I think there are multiples temples. Two great ones, well known to all, consacrated to the two different gods. And others smaller, less important, but relevant to their followers in the areas they are located. I say this because it's clear in the settings that a lot of peoples already devoted themselfs - in different ways -to one of the two gods long before the construction of the two temples. So there must be a lot of sacred places in Yliakum, and probably in the Stone Labyrinths and most certainly in Kadaikos. But when I referred to "the" Temple(s), I meant those mentioned by the settings page, not "any" Talad temple - wich I believe the Kran must have a lot.

So, yes, you made things more clear. But I want more...  :devil:

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« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2006, 07:00:51 pm »
Well your just going to have to wait.
As inca has said, it is Concept art.
You will see the final product in all its glory when the rest of us do, when the devs let us.

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Re: TALAD!
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2006, 07:20:11 pm »
Well your just going to have to wait.
As inca has said, it is Concept art.
You will see the final product in all its glory when the rest of us do, when the devs let us.

I'm not talking about actually "seeing" things implemented in game. I'm talking about more settings and conceptual information for roleplay. I often get myself into discussions created mainly because a lot of aspects of Yliakum could be more detailed. Not so we could know all the secrets or little agendas, nor to doesn't have to think by ourselves creating minor aspects of our characters lifes. I think that a lot of people discuss settings details, writes interesting stories based on the settings and no one cares to implement or deny that in the PlaneShift concept. So, each one of us roleplay based on the same world - that's true - but without being able to tell what's reasonable or not, sometimes. I've mentioned this before in a post about the way different races would grow older, and it took to no conclusion.

Unfortunately, everytime this kind of subject is brought up, people are more worried about "what will be implemented in the next client version" than about elaborating and discussing all the cultural/geographical/historical details that, in my opinion, would make PlaneShift world much richer and maybe give some constructive ideas to the devs.  :(

These days I was wondering myself: why isn't there a sub-forum dedicated to discuss concepts, rather than implementations? Then I though: mmmm.... maybe lack of interest....

PS: of course all of this wasn't directed to you, LARAGORN, nor to anyone specific.  ;)

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« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2006, 07:30:04 pm »
I understand what your getting at. and no offence read or taken :)
I gues all of your discussion would be in the Wish list area.
The history is a work in progress, the devs Know this, but instead of crossing all T's and doting all I's. their focus now is on the Game development.
I dont think you will get any flack for expressing your views in the wish list area, unless you do one of 2 things
1. post something that has already been discused.
2. try to rewrite PS history.


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Re: TALAD!
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2006, 08:18:58 pm »
I gues all of your discussion would be in the Wish list area.

Not exactly, since most of the discussion going on there is about in-game implementations, and this kind of subject eventually leads to the technical possibilities and ways of implementing things. I'll make a sugestion in the "Forum issues" to better clarify my idea to anyone interested. But you understood what I meant. Actually your reply just made me more eager to elaborate more on my last post.  ;)

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Re: TALAD!
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2006, 12:03:21 am »
Dear, Alvarez, can you post thi quotation from your sorce about "Talad made his temple himself"... It's very interesting to discuss main gods of Yliakim , can you post the quotation from main site history where Talad consttructed a temple for him himself?