Author Topic: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.  (Read 14260 times)

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2006, 08:21:16 pm »
Indeed. *points at Kerol's and Kiern's posts*
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #76 on: August 02, 2006, 08:40:56 pm »
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For the record, splitting up the PS community is a terrible idea.

but the community is already split!!!

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #77 on: August 02, 2006, 08:56:41 pm »
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For the record, splitting up the PS community is a terrible idea.

but the community is already split!!!

By choice, which is the important factor here.  If people want to split off themselves that's perfectly fine, but forcing them to do it is ridiculous.

If someone really doesn't know how to RP, they're more than likely going to choose the other server, when if they joined the RP server they might learn to like it and meet people there who really get them into it.  With the split servers, that just isn't going to happen.
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2006, 09:30:26 pm »
Exactly. Most new people would think "RP?, Roleplay? WTF is that, I'll just go to the powerlevelling, WoW style server".
When I first joined I too thought this was a kind of WoW, I learned to RP and that it is fun to do. I play Guildwars too, but I hate it more and more because people don't bother to RP there, just grinding and making profit. Don't split up the community, don't give in to the unknowing, keep one world!
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #79 on: August 02, 2006, 10:54:35 pm »
What absolutely astounds me is the people who find out this is a roleplay game but still choose to stay and promote anti roleplay. That is completely idiotic.
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #80 on: August 02, 2006, 11:24:28 pm »
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so in effect you are anti anti-roleplaying, and believe that anyone who doesnt enjoy roleplaying should be enforced to endure the company of those who do, how ever much they dislike it?

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #81 on: August 02, 2006, 11:26:56 pm »
It amazes me how many people cannot grasp the concept of RP. They all act like it is work or something!

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #82 on: August 02, 2006, 11:27:23 pm »
I did think that if they don't like it, they can look for another game..
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #83 on: August 02, 2006, 11:29:27 pm »
i am not against roleplaying ... but i'm aware that some people are, and i don't see why they should have any less right to play the game than those who do

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #84 on: August 02, 2006, 11:33:47 pm »
Well, because Talad has built PlaneShift for a certain kind of players. Vengeance for example agrees that everyone should be able to play no matter what they like to do - Talad considers roleplayers his first and only priority and the people he makes PlaneShift for.
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #85 on: August 02, 2006, 11:34:54 pm »
gimme a quote.

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #86 on: August 02, 2006, 11:35:48 pm »
Look around.
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #87 on: August 02, 2006, 11:42:08 pm »
Venge is being pragmatic, and Talad likes to hope we can all get along.  I think that as we progress the two concepts can merge together.

I think what people need to understand, is those that "RP" or "PL" are both not playing the game as intended.  You're not supposed to just make up stories and chat all day any more than you're supposed to just kill things and never talk to anyone else.  PS intends to be an RPG where people play the game in character.  That means playing the game; there are warriors killing lots of things, craftsmen, mages, merchants, even people who don't necessarily train any skills, and even the occasional dedicated story teller.  All this is in a truly living world, with multiple active quests and active economic and societal systems.  However, while we intend accommodate many different styles of gameplay into one cohesive world, everyone is expected to chat and act from the perspective of their character.

At this point, no, we can't do this.  The infrasturcures don't yet exist, so the community self-divides.  This will not always be the case, and I do hope those who are used to the (rather boring) extreme forms of both RP and PL don't try and keep them around forever.

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #88 on: August 02, 2006, 11:48:37 pm »
 Well said DaveG lets all try to get along after all at moment both are needed to fully test the game.
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #89 on: August 02, 2006, 11:49:42 pm »
I am assuming you are trying to quote me. If not I will answer anyway.

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so in effect you are anti anti-roleplaying .....

I don't like to label myself thanks. I am not in favor of those who stick around only to be rebels and be attention grabbers only because they don't agree with roleplay. If that is the case this isn't the place for you. If you love the game but aren't a roleplayer and don't purposely ruin roleplays for others ...  then I see no problems with them staying and playing the game. So, no I am not Anti anit- roleplay. I just respect what the devs have created for us and what Talads vision for this game is.

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and believe that anyone who doesnt enjoy roleplaying should be enforced to endure the company of those who do, how ever much they dislike it?

Did I say anything about enforcing? (And it isn't enforced in game a whole lot unless someone is being a jack ass)  No I said it was idiotic. Meaning I can't understand why.....

(1)they would want to waste their life and spend time ruining the enviroment for the true roleplayers. Just go play another game. Is that so hard?

(2) Why would play a game where there is clearly a limit to their leveling up, and obvious there is no challenge in the game really (besides roleplaying)  or a goal at this point. There is nothing to win. (Maybe in the future there might be)

(3) What is the reason to hate roleplay so much? Seriously, why knock it? Most of these people who are anti roleplay haven't even tried it. 

(4)  ??? What is the point of anti roleplay in a game that is clearly made for roleplayers.

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