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The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« on: July 06, 2006, 11:57:47 pm »
Someone just got mad at me for telling someone where the Bronze doors are. this was IN-GAME, so there should'nt be a problem, but according to ths guy i was OOC.  :thumbdown:

Also, I can't get help from anyone in-game because they just tell me it's more fun to find out for myself. I can't find out for mysefl, i just end up giving up. it's not fair.  :@#\

I know people shouldn't spoil, but telling me what i'm supposed to think is fun is not right.  ???

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2006, 12:06:59 am »
Maybe the problem is that you aren't RPing asking for help. (Of course, if you are, then people are just being jerks, or they don't know the answer themselves and just don't want to admit it!)

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2006, 12:07:23 am »
Being in-game doesn't always imply being IC :) Though it should. I guess depending on how you gave the directions, the guy's reaction could be either excused or tsked at.

What sort of help are you looking for, in-game?
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2006, 12:13:02 am »
Wait...isn't that...like...part of the point of the chat window? To ask other players for help? ???

The n00bs are going to be in an uproar if this happens to them.

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2006, 12:15:06 am »
Yes, but you can ask for help in the wrong ways, and the right ways.
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2006, 12:16:40 am »
Yes i was doing this IC. I just think this is a bit anti-social.  :sweatdrop:

I think people are taking this "no spoilers" and "always IC" thing so far they're going beyond human expectation.  :-\

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2006, 12:19:35 am »
Yes, but you can ask for help in the wrong ways, and the right ways.

True, but there is also a wrong way and a right way to give an answer. There are some people who won't even help the most desperate of people find their way around. I for one lactually like to guide them to their destination myself. In my opinion, as long is the person isn't rude to me, I'll give them help to my fullest potential, especially if they're new to the game.

Obviously I'd lprefer people to be IC, but a lot of people who are still getting the gist of the game don't have the knack for it yet.

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2006, 12:21:04 am »
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I think people are taking this "no spoilers" and "always IC" thing so far they're going beyond human expectation.
Well it depends on what PS is going to be... there are well played mmorpgs out there which are much (muchmuch) more focused on rp - and staying always IC - than PS is...
The only real problem in my opinion are the different expectations, if you mix up heavyrp-guys and some nonrpers and many in between, there will be some which are displeased by the behavior of others...
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2006, 12:27:02 am »
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I think people are taking this "no spoilers" and "always IC" thing so far they're going beyond human expectation.
Well it depends on what PS is going to be... there are well played mmorpgs out there which are much (muchmuch) more focused on rp - and staying always IC - than PS is...
The only real problem in my opinion are the different expectations, if you mix up heavyrp-guys and some nonrpers and many in between, there will be some which are displeased by the behavior of others...
yes, but when someone says using words and/or grammar that didn't exist 500 years ago is OOC then it's too much. thats just dumb. This is a game not shakespeare.

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2006, 12:31:10 am »
Well thats not dumb, just another view. In one of the mentioned other mmorpgs everyone had to write at least a A4 page with an interresting character-background-story for your char being acceptet to play... you can imagine that there were never any ooc or even modern language to read ingame... well that was too much for me after a while but that was their spirit... calling it dumb is unfair. For those people it was still a game, but a game following (really) heavy rp rules - and yes it was fun.
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2006, 12:54:46 am »
The no spoilers rule is really a bad one. I mean, if the man wants a spoiler give it to him. Maybe to that individual, being told is funner than slaving for hours to find the answer. I mean, when someone asks me for hints, I give it to em.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2006, 12:58:19 am »
The problem isn't really giving specific people spoilers, it's giving out spoilers that anyone can then read. It's all right to give out a spoiler in a PM where only the person you're giving it to can read it. But it's still best to give this information in game, so the character would logically know it.

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2006, 01:07:39 am »
The problem isn't really giving specific people spoilers, it's giving out spoilers that anyone can then read. It's all right to give out a spoiler in a PM where only the person you're giving it to can read it. But it's still best to give this information in game, so the character would logically know it.
i said it was in game. and I don't think telling someone where something is spoils anything.

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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2006, 01:12:25 am »
there is also the once brought up point of... this isnt a full game yet... so the spoiler may be that the end doesnt exist yet... so instead of saying that you must find that on your own <which would obviously be completely pointless...> a simple "doesnt exist yet" would do... except maybe in different terms... but that may not be the point... otherways might be asking h0ow long they have searched yet someone might exaggerate and say hours when it was really only like ten minutes... basically... if you ask for help you deserve it... so this SHOULDNT be a problem... yet people will always be people so there really isnt any point of discussing this seeing as there is no answer...
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Re: The "don't spoil" spirit has gone too far.
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2006, 01:13:59 am »
The problem isn't really giving specific people spoilers, it's giving out spoilers that anyone can then read. It's all right to give out a spoiler in a PM where only the person you're giving it to can read it. But it's still best to give this information in game, so the character would logically know it.

If someone asks for spoilers, /tell it to them so no one else is spoiled, and the person, who may have well been running around for 4 hours looking for the answer with a fruitless search, is satisfied.

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