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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2006, 11:29:24 pm »
Why would a being made of rock cover itself with leather? Moreover, what makes you think that Kran have a concept of "clothes" that do not offer any protection? ;P

I think I'm qualified to answer this. (in otherwords, crazy)

Take a valuable gem, like a diamond. What would you store it in? Well, a briefcase handcuffed to a guard. But assuming you just found one laying around, you would wrap it in something soft to prevent it from being scratched. A rock might be pretty hard to damage, but when they are, those scratches are annoying. I bet the kran feel the same way :P
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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2006, 11:32:06 pm »
Diamonds can't be scratched unless you're scratching as if your life depended on it with something ridiculously scratchy :P

That aside, I'm sure Kran can not only withstand minor scratches, they can recover from them :3
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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2006, 01:13:12 pm »
ON TOPIC: This may or may not belong on the Wish List as I, as a Kran, do not want the concept or practice of 'armor-to-show-when-and-if-equipped' to be developed and others may. Ask the Kran!

OFF TOPIC: The JEALOUSY shown by the other races of the Kran in this thread is amazing! I argue three points, and will until the day I die (which as a created being - may never come):
  • INTELLIGENCE - You will never, EVER see a kran licking his own hind-end like one of those MENKI
  • SEXUALITY - I did read the Kran Reproduction Thread and it is full of guesses, but no facts. It is clearly spelled out in the Yliakum History that Kran are created creatures (Talad's own handiwork) and reproduce by magic - alll else is RP. Just ask the Ymmwn and Fenki (heh heh)
  • COMPOSITION - it has been said that Kran are 'made of rocks'...I submit to you that are we not all made of minerals, really? Kran just have more of it that others...hence, the jealousy

Having sufficiently stirred the pot and fanned the flames, exit our hero...stage right...

Intelligence:  If you have fur, you have to take care of it.

Sexuality:  I see no reason to believe Kran would have to be Asexual, even if magic is involved in reproduction.

Composition:  They are silicate-based, yes.  But that does not mean they have to be rock-hard.  The only part of them that looks crystalline is on their foreheads, and their joints and surfaces stretch and bend like the rest of us.  So, although they may be denser, and less vulnerable, yes, leather armor might be a small plus.

Observation:  That the Devs have not stated answers to these questions in an official release of player's guide, or in a book found in Jayose's library, can also mean that they are still undecided as to which would be more playable, within PS.

And of course, even once they do so, they can always change their minds, later.

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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2006, 03:12:19 pm »
if there are kran buisness guys they will probably dress in leather to look more inviting to their customers
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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2006, 03:30:22 pm »
Ever hit a rock with a hammer? They tend to fragment and split so for me the idea of Kran wearing leather armour is entirely feasable, if only to stop some minor chippage
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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2006, 03:39:24 pm »
Check out Gentar's armor thread




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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2006, 05:48:48 pm »
I would add that as sentient beings they might evolve away from having no shame or vanity etc as they gain exposure to people who do. The will to conform is strong and universal. The statement that Kran might add clothing if they were in business seems reasonable to me as well. Also, as we see with the various fenki and menki method of wearing strange parts of the armor on different parts of the body to increase a given character's individuation, i think the Kran might enjoy that as well. In terms of yolki's comments about wanting to wear armor yet have it remain unseen, I think this could be implemeted as an option universally. Like wearing a robe over leather armor etc. Personally i would like to see Kran be able to dress up if they wish.

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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2006, 06:07:50 pm »
I would add that as sentient beings they might evolve away from having no shame or vanity etc as they gain exposure to people who do. The will to conform is strong and universal. The statement that Kran might add clothing if they were in business seems reasonable to me as well. Also, as we see with the various fenki and menki method of wearing strange parts of the armor on different parts of the body to increase a given character's individuation, i think the Kran might enjoy that as well. In terms of yolki's comments about wanting to wear armor yet have it remain unseen, I think this could be implemeted as an option universally. Like wearing a robe over leather armor etc. Personally i would like to see Kran be able to dress up if they wish.

This I agree with, in example business men could show their armour, though if others wish to have the defense bonus but not show the armor itself due to the oddness they may feel wearing armour, they could have it unseen.

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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2006, 06:26:49 pm »
I would add that as sentient beings they might evolve away from having no shame or vanity etc as they gain exposure to people who do. ...

HUH? As a sentient being, I aspire to the truth. The truth is that none of us were not created with clothing, shame, vanity, power-hunger, or many of the other character traits on display daily in Yliakum and other worlds. We can certainly claim all of these as OUR creations (please note that your humble narrator includes himself in this list of guilty parties). Perhaps all races can aspire to truth rather than conforming to a downgraded level of existance from what we were made to enjoy.

We won't even get to the word EVOLVE in this thread....

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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2006, 10:04:33 pm »
It's fun to theorize, but.. Kran don't wear regular clothes :) Like I said, this doesn't rule out decorative elements and trinkets. But they have no need to "imitate" other races through clothing. Kran are Kran, and they are strong in their own ways and beliefs. Thus if Kran are to be played properly, it should be remembered that 'normal' shirts and pants are incongrous with the Kran lifestyle.
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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2006, 10:32:40 pm »
Couldn't a Kran reject his culture? Like a gangsta rapper from the suburds or something? And if he wanted to couldn't he get a tailor to sew him up some threads. Karyuu I want to play a gangtsa Kran will you be my tailor? :P

I know, the reality is if the clothing were made the people would wear it(Yolki excepted of course), and i agree with the alternative manner of decoration idea.

However strong the kran's ways a player might concieve an alternative concept for his or her Kran. Niether Yolki nor xillix can speak for all Kran :)

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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2006, 10:40:39 pm »
I definitely understand :}

But then, what if someone wants to play an alternatively colored Enkidukai? What if someone wants an unusual skin color for a character? There are way too many cases of exceptions for the team to take them on, so we are dealing with the default at this time.
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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2006, 06:33:54 am »
I definitely understand :}

But then, what if someone wants to play an alternatively colored Enkidukai? What if someone wants an unusual skin color for a character? There are way too many cases of exceptions for the team to take them on, so we are dealing with the default at this time.


Which just means that players who have a strong need for individuality, have to make their own changes.

Many of us modded skins when they were PNG files, and I spent weeks working on my own.

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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2006, 03:20:28 pm »
I just read this thread. Before I was under the assumption that leather armor had to be equiped to protect yourself as a Kran. But now I know this is not the case. But now I wonder wether Kran armor is the same as light armor and can therefore be trained with the light armor skill? Can someone confirm this?

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Re: Kran armor (split from clothing thread)
« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2006, 08:43:41 pm »
I don't know about that but I have my own question. If krans get no benefit from leather armor why do I get benefit from light armor skill and if that gets removed from krans do I get all the money and pps back I wasted on it? It is very expensive at higher levels.