Author Topic: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.  (Read 6970 times)

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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2006, 12:14:33 pm »
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Directly in front of that Ulbernauts fist? Or in that bottomless pit I crashed down?
Perhaps there could be one respawn point for every area...
Er, that's sorta what I meant, sorry I didn't clarify.  To me this would be the best way as there would be no benifit to dying, you'd die, have to go through the death realm and then restart at the begining of whatever area you were in.

Either that or just have everyone spawn in Hydlaa, I can't see what's wrong with that.  I mean, it's fine for older players to spawn in places like Akkia, but for newbies it's absolute crap to start at.  Think about it, you have almost no easy quests to help you get started, very few players to help you along, rogues that'll kill you in about 2 hits, and pretty much the only thing to do for money is fighting rats.  While people that start off in Hydlaa have early access to platinum mines and are able to work their way up from rats to clackers to gobbles to tefusangs etc.  I'm not an enki player but I used to talk to a lot of them when I had to go there to train, most of whom were completely lost, and usually saying if I hadn't of been along to teach them the basics they would have just given up.

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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2006, 12:48:03 pm »
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...you'd die, have to go through the death realm and then restart at the begining of whatever area you were in.
Either that or just have everyone spawn in Hydlaa, I can't see what's wrong with that.
you are right there... especially with the problem new players can have there. But if nobody spawn there the place will get even more deserted... Therefore i would still vote in favour of random respawning. Maybe one day you can visit Ojaveda or the bronzedoors area and meet some people there :)
I am a bit irritated anyways, that there are so many players hanging around in Hydlaa only. I frequently visit the other places. Because I like them and give me the feeling of playing in a big world. Just one city... thats too small.
So everyone! Get out and go for a drink on Ojaveda or meet at the campfire in the bronzedoor region. ...but thats  :offtopic:  :)
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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2006, 04:26:26 pm »
if you don't like spawning in oja choose another race, simple and easy... don't think it's only advantages of being an enki
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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2006, 08:38:31 pm »
Everyone spawning in Hydlaa is the wrong solution. The right solution is to add more material to Ojaveda, which is precisely what we are going to do.
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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2006, 09:50:28 pm »
Everyone spawning in Hydlaa is the wrong solution. The right solution is to add more material to Ojaveda, which is precisely what we are going to do.

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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2006, 03:03:19 am »
Have a better idea

You randomly spawn back into the world. That way the DR wouldn't be used as a shortcut either becuase people wouldn't know where they would spawn.

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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2006, 03:57:16 am »
I've got an idea: TWO portals in the Death realm. one goes to akkaio and the other to hydlaa.

people in hydlaa will /die to get to akkaio faster. then /die to get back to hydlaa.
I meant after the DR gets bigger.

I like the idea of spawning in the area where you die.

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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2006, 12:31:01 pm »
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Everyone spawning in Hydlaa is the wrong solution. The right solution is to add more material to Ojaveda, which is precisely what we are going to do.
Yes, but for now, it seems better for everyone to spawn in Hydlaa, as you're scaring a lot of new players away by dropping them there.

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Have a better idea

You randomly spawn back into the world. That way the DR wouldn't be used as a shortcut either becuase people wouldn't know where they would spawn.
Right, so when somebody starts off the game, and dies, they get teleported first to the death realm, which is pretty much impossible to just guess how to get out of, and then, after waiting a half hour or so for someone to help them, they get teleported to some random spot on the map with even less people to help them.
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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2006, 02:20:49 pm »
Well then in that case what we need is more players.

Either that or have all the random spawn points be near sign posts (readable ones!) that tell which way the areas are.

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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2006, 08:41:38 pm »
Yes, but for now, it seems better for everyone to spawn in Hydlaa, as you're scaring a lot of new players away by dropping them there.

I utterly fail to see that.
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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2006, 09:26:14 pm »
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Everyone spawning in Hydlaa is the wrong solution. The right solution is to add more material to Ojaveda, which is precisely what we are going to do.
Yes, but for now, it seems better for everyone to spawn in Hydlaa, as you're scaring a lot of new players away by dropping them there.

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Have a better idea

You randomly spawn back into the world. That way the DR wouldn't be used as a shortcut either becuase people wouldn't know where they would spawn.
Right, so when somebody starts off the game, and dies, they get teleported first to the death realm, which is pretty much impossible to just guess how to get out of, and then, after waiting a half hour or so for someone to help them, they get teleported to some random spot on the map with even less people to help them.

The devs aren't trying to please new players.  and I don't think you really understand roleplay.

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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2006, 04:09:04 am »
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Everyone spawning in Hydlaa is the wrong solution. The right solution is to add more material to Ojaveda, which is precisely what we are going to do.
Yes, but for now, it seems better for everyone to spawn in Hydlaa, as you're scaring a lot of new players away by dropping them there.

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Have a better idea

You randomly spawn back into the world. That way the DR wouldn't be used as a shortcut either becuase people wouldn't know where they would spawn.
Right, so when somebody starts off the game, and dies, they get teleported first to the death realm, which is pretty much impossible to just guess how to get out of, and then, after waiting a half hour or so for someone to help them, they get teleported to some random spot on the map with even less people to help them.

The devs aren't trying to please new players.  and I don't think you really understand roleplay.


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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2006, 04:57:48 am »
I'm not sure that having everyone respawn in Hydlaa is the thing to do, some new players might never explore the areas outside Hydlaa if they had everything they need for their character close at hand, plus respawned there too. What is reasonable though, is to have all the races respawn at Oja until the other cities have been put into play for the other races.

One of the benefits to having all the races respawn in Oja is that /die becomes a less desireable option when the going gets a little rough in game. For example, if it's hard to find your way out of the temple after mining a full load of ore, /die can land you right smack in Hydlaa if you're anything other than enki.. right where you might want to be if you have a full load of ore.

My character is enki, and yes, it's a minor (as opposed to major)  hassle to have to respawn in Oja. Had I known about BEFORE character creation (it's not mentioned in the guide or throughout the character creation process) perhaps I'd have chosen a different race. Or perhaps not. I have the character I started with.. for better or for worse, so to speak. To say "just create a new character" doesn't really take into account that I (and others) already have a fairly established character with ties to other charcacters in the game. It would be poor role playing, indeed, to let the fact of an inconvenient respawn spot affect my decision as to whether or not I kill my charrie off.


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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2006, 05:20:01 am »
But if everyone spawns in Oja, doesn't that mean nobody will do anything in Hydlaa? After all, Oja has all the same shops. It'll just be the same situation but in reverse.

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Re: Why do enkis have to spawn somewhere different.
« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2006, 05:37:54 am »
But if everyone spawns in Oja, doesn't that mean nobody will do anything in Hydlaa? After all, Oja has all the same shops. It'll just be the same situation but in reverse.

Have you played this game before?

The arena is in hydlaa, so are the sewers, gold mine, platinum, iron, Strength trainer, sword trainer, I mean EVERYTHING.

Besides the recent change of ores, almost everything remains in Hydlaa.

So no, if we moved EVERYONE to oja, people would continue flocking to hydlaa because of all the things i listed above.

I think we should have 2 portals in the Death realm, one that leads to OJA, another to Hydlaa, that would GREATLY increase traffic and Fun.
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