Thank you, Idoru. Yes, Pisik was a great asset. And he was on pins and needles about leaving. He really soul-searched before he left and was quite upset about the whole thing. I was away for a short time and everything just kinda went poof. Have not seen Melorek, or the Borimels for that matter, for a while and of Illustro... nothing. There are a number of people I mention below... sorry if I forgot anyone... who are regular players with good attitudes. Consider them, Idoru, active players deserve active guilds.
Thank you, Larrydag. But I really think the decision to create a webpage and host it belongs to Ganite and Bitot, or Lesilie secondarily. If you feel like you should remain a part of the Crafter, then get something online but if they do come back, they may decide not to use it.
I have some good friends still in the Crafter: Phinlos, Winder, Dothar. A couple of weeks into their initial (guildmasters) absence, I did consider breaking off and forming the "Crafter Local #47" or some such. Since I usually have the time to be online, most days anyway. I did not do it because I was nagged by this feeling of ... betrayal ... and told Winder I would speak with Bitot when he was on before doing anything.
Then I noticed Bitot had been on a couple of times briefly, and when I logged back in Ganite and Bitot and Melorek and I did some event at the gold field to celebrate Illustro and then ... nothing. This was shortly before I saw Phinehas' posting and it just kinda... anyway I appreciate anyone who has posted here and that includes Phinehas.
I will probably leave Eldoth as a member of the Crafter. I last logged him off in a sleeping room in the Kada-El after drinking with friends for a while. He pretty much just walks around between there and Harnquists, holding a beer and wondering what happened... he does not work the forge, or the mine. Pretty much just drinks.
I still think there is nothing wrong with that name, other groups (not in PS) have used such a tense in their title name so it is not unheard of... However, I did not join because of the name -- but in spite of it -- and because of Daminson, and then stayed because of Bitot, Ganite, Winder, Phinlos, Pisik, Halaali and others whom I cannot recall at the moment.
You seem to almost be a model guildmaster Idoru, I say that because an alt knows a number of good people in the Elemental light, and they are bright and active and pleasant to deal with IG and all have good things to say about you, so I congratulate you on the hopefully continuing success of the Elemental Light.
I could have left this thread alone and not posted, however that would not have been sincere, nor fair to Phinehas. So once again I thank everyone, despite any guild issues. Most anybody I have met and remembered in Planeshift has made a mark on me somehow, and hopefully we may see Ganite and Bitot again. Though I might be the only one left in the guild at that point.
Anyway, this is all a whole lot more interesting than nothing at all, even if things were not perfect...