Training as-it-happens . . .

[Penrhyn Tilveniant]

So, I got me a little tria, found me someone able to train me in Combat Skills (Sword), and spent 2PP's to get training.

This gives me the mesage "You've received some Sword training."  From the various FAQS and guides I've read through here, I take it I've gained Theoretical Knowledge in this skill, and now need only Practical Knowledge for my skill to actually increase.  Cool.  I get to kill clackers with my trusty broadsword. 

Going to my Combat Skill (Sword), I have '2' points in this skill, and with the 2PP's spent on training, I'm expecting this to increase to 4 sometime soon.  I note that the main bar is 20% yellow/80%red.  Within this yellow portion, the smaller blue bar is about 50% of the yellow bar, or about 10% of the *total* bar.  What does all this mean?  The yellow bar tells me how much I need to be taught . . . does that mean it should full up the entire red bar before I get a skill increase?  The blue bar tell em how much I can be taught with my current PP's . . . so does this mean when blue = yell *then* my skill will increase?

*Please* excuse me if I'm being a dumb-a*se, but . . . yeah, I know what the colours are *supposed* to mean, but I sorta don't get it . . . 

[Karyuu]

Hiya!

Took me a while to remember how all the bars work, so it's definitely not your fault for being confused

Let's start with the blue bar. The blue bar represents how much of a particular skill you can train based on the amount of PPs you have. So let's say that the blue color covers 50% of the yellow skill bar - that means that with your amount of PPs, you can train 50% of the theoretical part of the skill until you run out of PPs and will need to get more to continue. The yellow bar itself represents the total amount of training from a trainer that you require, and the red part shows how much of the practice you need after a trainer to level up that skill. When you train or practice, you will see a green bar that shows your progress.

So let's take a look at your example: 20% yellow/80%red with 50% of the yellow having a blue.

That particular skill requires that you train with an NPC trainer for 20% of it, to fill up that yellow portion of the bar. Your current amount of Progression Points will allow you to train only half of that 20% right now, so you will need to gather some more PPs to continue. After you fill up that yellow bar completely with an NPC trainer, you will have to practice it so that 80% red color gets filled up as well.

Was that any help?

[ThomPhoenix]

The training bars are confusing indeed, for someone who just started the game.
I don't know if the training bars are covered in the in-game tutorial, but they should be.
It's all a work in progress anyway

[Penrhyn Tilveniant]

Hi Karyuu, thanks for your response . . .

> The blue bar represents how much of a particular skill you can train based on the amount of PPs you have.

Okay . . . so as my PP's increase through experience, my blue bars will lengthen.  When my blue bar equals my yellow bar in a given skill, then I know that if I spend all my current PP's on that skill, then I'm receiving all the Theoretical training I need to level up.  But I then need Practical training, which is represented by the amount of red bar within the whole bar.

> After you fill up that yellow bar completely with an NPC trainer

 . . . by 'filling up that yellow bar', does this mean spending PP's until the blue bar equals the yellow bar?

I have started to see a green bar forming withing the skill I'm being trained in.  This is good.  Does that green bar have to then reach the end of the yellow bar, or does it have to reach the end of the red bar before I actually level up . . ?

So, to increase a skill:  accrue enough PP's so that the blue bar in a skill equals the yellow bar.  When it does, spend those PP's to get sufficient practical training.  When you have, use your skill to gain practical experience in it.  This is denoted by the green bar, and you will finally level up your skill when your green bar fills up the entire red bar.

How does that sound . . ?

[Einnol]

Okay . . . so as my PP's increase through experience, my blue bars will lengthen.  When my blue bar equals my yellow bar in a given skill, then I know that if I spend all my current PP's on that skill, then I'm receiving all the Theoretical training I need to level up.  But I then need Practical training, which is represented by the amount of red bar within the whole bar.

Yes.  Sounds like you got it.

I have started to see a green bar forming withing the skill I'm being trained in.  This is good.  Does that green bar have to then reach the end of the yellow bar, or does it have to reach the end of the red bar before I actually level up . . ?

It needs to reach the very end (the red).  After all possible training (raising the green thru the yellow portion), you will practice in order to progress the green the rest of the way (red).

. . . by 'filling up that yellow bar', does this mean spending PP's until the blue bar equals the yellow bar?

Actually, as you spend the PP's, the blue bar will decrease as the green (completed) bar progresses.  It will be the green that will become equal to the yellow as you train.  The blue bar is basically "unspent PP's" and will convert into green.  But, you have the right idea when you say "When my blue bar equals my yellow bar in a given skill, then I know that if I spend all my current PP's on that skill, then I'm receiving all the Theoretical training I need to level up."  If you have done any training at all and have some green already, you won't need the blue bar to be equal to the yellow because you have progressed in some training.

Hope that helps.

[Iamthom]

Blue
YelloowReeeed

You have 5pp, which fills up half of your yellow bar. The yellow bar represents needed training required only by trainers. Once the blue bar gets to the point in which it reaches or overtakes the yellow bar, you will have earned enough PP required to train fully in that skill. Training isnt everything though! Once you have gotten that blue bar to reach the yellow bar, then the yellow turns to green.

GreeenReeeed

There is no longer a blue bar since you no longer require training. What you need now is practice. And the only way to gain practice is to go out and use your skill. So, using the sword skill, go kill some rats. You will now start to see a message appear in your chat box that says "You have gained some experience in Sword skill" (exact wording may be off). Once the green bar reaches the end, you gain a skill level! 

P.S. if you use some PP before the blue makes it to the end of the yellow, then the blue will start over, so it will look like:

blue
greeeeenyelllowreed

Just use some guessing to determine if you added the blue part to the green, if it would make it to the end of yellow.


I hope that helped lol 

[Penrhyn Tilveniant]

 . . . yes, thank you all, your many explanations, and a little in-game playing around has cleared it all up a lot.

Lovin' this game . . .

 

[Iamthom]

lol, yeah, i noticed it was explained twice before, but when I read through them they still seemed confusing, so, I tried throwing in some colors to hopefully replicate the in-game bars 

But who knows, maybe mine was the most confusing 

[Mordaan]

The easiest way to keep track is to train with a trainer until it says you can't train anymore.  Then the blue and yellow bars disappear and are replaced by green up to where it turns red.  Then its time to earn practice points by actually using the skill and as that happens the green moves forward and replaces the red.  Once the green gets all the way you level and the process begins again.

So train -> practice -> level.

[Mirashi]

That's a good idea. Train with trainers until they can't teach you anymore, then keep going by learning things on your own. I love it.