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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2006, 11:07:19 pm »

Heh, and mine. I can only copy

You also copyed their line  :P

More importantly, nice work.
I suggest the statue of Laanx gets turned into a statue of Parallo <3. An NPC could never replace the huge hole he left in my heart when he died  :'(

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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2006, 05:19:01 pm »
@Parallo: The line was about that it's nice :P

@ Croconil: Stickmen are my speciality when I'm bored in class :whistling: I can make a stickman play guitar  \\o//

And to Kiraki I'll say it be myself now :P Nice drawing ;)
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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2006, 07:25:24 pm »
This one turned out a little strange but I like it so here it is:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7439/treepli3.jpg

Treep:  Mmh not much to say about these creatures… they travel in flocks, they are grazers, they are friendly, they are fuzzy and they are intellectually challenged.  Not the most interesting of beasts but easily domesticated and popular for their wooly fleece.

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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2006, 07:29:44 pm »
Looks like Xordan :P

Comedy aside

Wow, you're amazing.

Not only the art, but the creativity.

I wish I could draw :P

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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #64 on: October 18, 2006, 08:01:56 pm »
I wish I could draw :P

Hey again my line  :P
 ::| Woow a crosshybrid between a goat, struisvogel (you know those birds who live I believe in Australië, they can run but they can't fly) and  the head looks like a shell... Dudette How, I mean really.. HOW do you come up with these things (a side from drawing them so good)?  I mean I like to draw, but it doesn't look like anything... And I don't do it that often because all I can think of to draw are stupid faces or stickman. I really like to your inspiration source  :detective: or is that to private?  ;)
Rock and draw on! I would say :D (and don't forget to have fun either :P )
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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #65 on: October 19, 2006, 11:05:34 am »
Hello Kiraki.

As I mentioned to you, it's hard to give you hints. In the first place, because I'm really noone as to point you what is wrong, and what should be improved/changed in your drawings. Secondly, because they're all of them labeled as sketches, so probably what one spots is nothing more than what the hurry caused, when drawing the sketch.

On average, you confirm the initial thoughts I had. More than creating monsters, you attempt to create fauna. That's worth a praise indeed. Normally, when you (you is not you, but a general you) go to draw something, there's the tendancy to add sharp and claws everywhere, as to make monsters, and not animals for the landscape. Besides, that excessive addition of sharp elements, tends to make creatures not believable.
Someone has already commented that you seem to like to mix known species to make new ones, sort of Dr. Moreau you are ^^
If we observe the nature we known, we will find an amazingly wide range of variety in animals. It's just impressive the different forms they have, so, normally, trying to come up with a monster that has nothing to do with those animals that already exist, might give the impression of unrealistic. Similar to that saying of "everything's already invented", one might think that, given the amazing variety of animals that already exist, no other combination can exist, or it would be already there.

 :-X I'm already too long on the message and still have not commented any of your creations :S

I'll say something about the Treep. The last one you posted, so it comes handy.

What I thought when seeing it was, hey, three legs. There's something nice in three legs, they're always on a plane, no matter how long each of them is. That then is interesting for a chair, so it would not balance at all, if it had three legs. But they tend to have four, and we all blame them when they balance, and try to fix that with normally not very elegant countermeasures.
I'm deviating again.
Well, what I thought was... nice, that creature can stand still in a very stable way but...
what about when it walks?
I don't know if you thought about it, but, having made the creature three legged, you could have added to the description how it moves around.
To my eyes, this creature cannot use the normal walking way, because if that was the case, when it raised the frontal leg, immediately after, the front part of the body would tend to fall to the ground.
You could make it walk on the two rear legs, and then when stops, go into the three leg mode, it would certainly be a weird way of walking around.
But what I imagined is more simple. Little jumps. It's kind of funny to imagine that sort of lamb jumping in order to advance. There would be tiny jumps.
That way, in Yliakum people would not count lambs jumping a fence in order to get sleep, but they'd count treeps jumping a fence.

So, how you imagined that creature? Did you think about any way they would move around? Share it  \\o//  :flowers:
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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #66 on: October 19, 2006, 12:59:49 pm »
the head reminds me of those things from starwars.... forget what they are called....




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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #67 on: October 22, 2006, 03:49:03 pm »
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/146/female2wt8.jpg

Another little beastie: Grunda:  These little creatures (About the size of sheep) are quite a pest to gardens.  They love eating flowers and anything sweet often wandering into towns and settlements to find it.  If nothing sweet can be found they will consume any other form of vegetation they can see.  They have no fear of creatures bigger than themselves and the males will deftly defend their small herds by ramming their heads into anything that gets in their way.  The females, being slower and less agile than the males, are usually a lot more placid.  They males have a very distinctive call that can be heard over great distances and is used to ward of invaders from their territory.  Both male and female have band of distinctive pigment across their muzzles which can flash many different colours.  No use for this has yet been discovered but studies indicate that this is more than likely used as a form of communication.  This also indicates that that Grunda are a lot more intelligent than expected.  Further studies are still being conducted.

Someone has already commented that you seem to like to mix known species to make new ones, sort of Dr. Moreau you are ^^
If we observe the nature we known, we will find an amazingly wide range of variety in animals. It's just impressive the different forms they have, so, normally, trying to come up with a monster that has nothing to do with those animals that already exist, might give the impression of unrealistic. Similar to that saying of "everything's already invented", one might think that, given the amazing variety of animals that already exist, no other combination can exist, or it would be already there.

I do not attempt to mix species into new ones but I guess since people are able to identify certain features makes it seem that way.  I simply sketch whatever comes to mind and very often the anatomy resembles something that already exists simply because it makes logical sense for it to be shaped that way. 

About how the Treep walk:  It can balance very well on its hind legs so it walks be shifting its weight to the back and then moving its front leg forward and landing on it.  This is followed by more of a jump than a step which gives it a very bouncy gait when walking.  Running however is not a problem as its momentum carries it forward and it can run just as well with three legs as if it had four.


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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2006, 12:20:33 pm »
Kiraki... I just love the way you draw... no wonder that beastie has that kind of throat when it eats like that...

the head reminds me of those things from starwars.... forget what they are called....

those two legged hairy walking things? The name starts with W... Wildows or woldies or something wubbles... maybe can't remember :p
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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #69 on: October 25, 2006, 12:59:46 am »
2 Legged hairy walker things in star wars?

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Do you mean the little care bears <3?

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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2006, 03:53:40 pm »
This one turned out a little strange but I like it so here it is:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7439/treepli3.jpg

Treep:  Mmh not much to say about these creatures… they travel in flocks, they are grazers, they are friendly, they are fuzzy and they are intellectually challenged.  Not the most interesting of beasts but easily domesticated and popular for their wooly fleece.


Not bad, but a three legged creature of that kind looks unrealistic to me, I hardly see how this creature can walk efficiently. Nature only keeps the most adapted creature alive, the weak or inadapted beings are always going to disappear (remember Darwin's theory). I think it would be better with 2 or 4 legs, coz' I think this one would be quite easily exterminated by its predators...

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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2006, 04:47:41 pm »
@symmael What about the 3-wheeled babycarry cars? they are overtaking the market from the 4-wheeld onces!
3 = less the four so it also requir food, and the preganecy spamm would be smaller so they can reproduce quicker, and think of what ofroad action this treep can do? again look at the 3-wheeled baby carrier   ;)
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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #72 on: October 27, 2006, 04:54:03 pm »
I think the success of 3 wheeled cars is because they're On wheels. Carriers and cars are also built in a completely different way then the complex body of a Treep, for example. A step of a bipedal actually takes a huge amount of balance, that we can see on robots, the robot-engineers still have alot to learn from the us.;)
A triped would have to use it's two back legs to propel the creature while the front leg would have to serve as something to jump with, also better balance on fourlegged creatures.

Also, the success of the triped-cars could be because of it's apparent coolness-status ;)
« Last Edit: October 27, 2006, 05:19:43 pm by Baldur »

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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #73 on: October 28, 2006, 06:44:13 pm »
Not bad, but a three legged creature of that kind looks unrealistic to me, I hardly see how this creature can walk efficiently. Nature only keeps the most adapted creature alive, the weak or inadapted beings are always going to disappear (remember Darwin's theory). I think it would be better with 2 or 4 legs, coz' I think this one would be quite easily exterminated by its predators...

True, this creature might not be the fastest in the world, but it will still be able to function well enough none the less. (I actually got the idea from seeing a three legged sheep on this one farm and it seemed happy enough to me).   Also when I drew this I was thinking more in the lines of domesticated animals then wild ones.
Darwin’s theory of evolution does refer to natural selection but this is only one of many factors to consider.  Even so if these creatures where found in the wild there are other means to fend of predators than speed.

If we are work with natural selection however there are many factors to consider.  The only defense I have mentioned is that they live in flocks, but other protective methods such as having an extremely bad taste or scent might also deter predators.
I said very little about these creatures and did not even mention which kinds of predators are found in their specific habitat or if there may possibly be some form of co-evolution.  I think this will largely influence success.
To explain what I mean I could mention the very sad example of the panda.  A predator that evolved into a herbivore to eat, out of all things, bamboo, which not only has almost no nutritional value but required them to evolve special adaptations to their stomachs from keeping the splinters from killing them.  A panda has very little energy to waste; it eats bamboo all day just so that it has enough energy to eat more bamboo the next day.  They only come into heat a few days each year because they do not have enough energy to waste on reproduction more often.  If they have twins, they reject them both because they do not have enough reserves to produce milk for more than one.  There are no predators around and their only threat is in fact human settlements destroying their habitat.  IMHO these creatures are clearly an evolutionary disaster, yet they are still around today, simply because there are no predators around to hunt them.

Also please keep in mind that Darwin’s theory is not completely accepted as it does not take genetic inheritance into account.  Remember that natural selection refers mostly to wild animals. Domestic breeding and other interferences by people is trait selective not naturally selective.  Think of just about any domesticated animal, they will not survive long in the wild.  I did mention that these animals where popular for their fur so they would more than likely be protected in some way or another. 

 ::| Was a waffling on about something again? I think I have said a lot more than I needed to by now.   :whistling:

Well on a lighter note here are some furry critters.  My pen was drying up and going all blotchy so I just felt like making good use of it before it died hehe.  :P

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5012/battle66nl1.jpg


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Re: Little Beastie
« Reply #74 on: October 30, 2006, 12:24:08 pm »
Kiraki... I just love that creature it's so cute... please let me keep it pleeeeease xD thanks for sharing hun ;)
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