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dying_inside

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Should that be allowed?
« on: September 03, 2006, 11:24:00 am »
I hope this is in the right place.

Just wandering,  since  I realise that a bunch of people are roleplaying vampires (somthing that doesnt exist in Yliakum anyway..  :-\) a guild "vampire hunters" has been erected.  Now I know its nice to have a guild and such, but seeing as vampires dont exist in planeshift, its a rather pointless guild?
So is this trend going to continue? I'm kinda worried about it to be honest as the roleplaying might be drawn out of Yliakum and into our world.  Which was not the aim of the game right?
Not to stomp on anybody's dream, rain on  parades and bunch of other  terms, but I think someone should get that guild name changed to somthing more planeshift related..... Maybe just somthing based on snuffing out the darkness that inevitably springs up in Yliakum. I dunno, but as we dont have vampires, or a planeshift styled substitute this seemingly doesnt belong in planeshift.

Sorry if this seems a little harsh or keep to the guidlines type of thing but i'd much rather bend the rules within the realm of Planeshift.

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2006, 11:33:39 am »
This is not the first time that there is a vampire plot in the game. Sad, but true. IIRC those previous attempts were not supported.

My question is, then: Has the playerbase told about this fact to those playing that plot? And if so, what has been their reaction?

I do not think the problem is to deal with this new "vampire hunter" guild, but on the origin, the ones that chose, yet again, to bring vampires in Planeshift.

I do not see that need some players have to use outsetting creatures to develop their plots of evilness, as if they require a power that they can't have using other ways (vampires are, from a setting point of view, as extraterrestrians would be to us) I honestly think there are other ways to act, and, despite I haven't seen this ones acting, I think that the best thing to do is inform them that what they're doing has been attempted many times before, without positive success, and not because there were no abilities to roleplay such a char, but simply because the char is not roleplayable in this game.
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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2006, 11:40:34 am »
Well, thats why I suggested simply having them change their name as opposed to deleteing the guiild or somthing. they havnt actually been doing anything bad, just misinformed.

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2006, 11:45:32 am »
Will there be vampires in the game eventually? If so then these guys may only be trying to reserve the name. I have to admit I have done this before. Creating a guild early just so i can use it later on (and so the name won't get nicked).

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2006, 12:17:12 pm »
I  doubt it. Apparantly they wanted somthing unique and original, which is why we wont be having dogs, cats and horses etc.
the only thing they skipped that on was a few player  races..

They might consider doing a planeshift version of Vampires but I dont know.....

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2006, 01:55:23 pm »
I  doubt it. Apparantly they wanted somthing unique and original, which is why we wont be having dogs, cats and horses etc.
the only thing they skipped that on was a few player  races..

They might consider doing a planeshift version of Vampires but I dont know.....


Isnt tha a bit of a pipe dream, because these days it is very, very difficult to make somethign original, for example music, it is hard to get an original tune or lyrics unless you just mix a bit of everythign to create a new sound but not nessecerally a oringinal unique sound.

Originality is nice, but if it is to difficult to create enough creatures that have not been created before then they should like relax a bit on trying to make everything original or else you are going to have very little variety of creatures in the world.

I suppose you coudl get a bit of original looking creatures but i dont think you can get many out of it, it takes a lot of hours messing around with concept art and mixing various creatures together and styles.

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2006, 03:11:05 pm »
It is not really about originality and its true sense. Its rather about ideas which are so popular that almost boring. I don't know how i could exlain it better. I would rather seen the mixed version, rather than complete rip off. Like we will have pterosaurs, we could say its mix of dragon (because it fly and you can ride it), obvious connection to the dinosaurs and thats it i suppose.
Even this thread is complete unorginal ;P I believe this topic has been explained many, many times, yet people ask the sama question. But somebody has to tell this once again, for those new people who ask and wonder about the same questions over and over again. Because they never search, that can't be really called wrong, because sometimes its like telling 3 years old child to go and google the question ;P



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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2006, 03:36:02 pm »
I'd say Vampires are about as common in ps as in rl... there are always myths...some based in truth... i guess if there were some stipulation that real myths can't exist in ps then their name would be a myth-take... ;D

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2006, 06:24:12 pm »
Just think up a new name for vampire like beings like....... gratthaks or something, there you go problem solved.  \\o//

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2006, 08:24:46 pm »
The problems are the people who work outside of the Planeshift settings.  Those individuals don't understand roleplaying.
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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2006, 10:36:25 pm »
Oi vey. I have a feeling this is going to be a problem. Thus far I haven't been involved in the vampire plot; not out of choice but just because I had no way to get involved. I've been keeping tabs on it though, and so far it's been done somewhat well, a bit of godmodding but that's expected. However, I have a feeling, unless this is a part of the plot, there's going to be a lot more powerplaying going on...

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2006, 11:17:03 pm »
I haven't been following this plot but indirectly. I haven't found a thread in the in-game forum but this thread is about the guild behind it. I think the discussion whether settings allow it or not is best placed there.
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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2006, 12:08:03 am »
Oi vey.

Bloody hell. Yiddish on the internet!

@Zhal : Well thanks for showing me this, I have to give them credit, because it looks like they have at  least given thought to the creation of Vampires within the planshift realm.  Which is more  than I would have expcted from alot of people to be honest.

I'm not really damning the idea completely just kinda shying away from it as it is cliche even though I do like them.

On another note, in ths realm it seems that the vampires have more weaknesses than usual. If  someone were to seek a destruction of them, then they would no doubt call on the Kran.

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2006, 01:01:56 am »
Lately, I have seen a lot of criticism and skepticism about the vampire RP that the Monstrumis Bloodline guild has begun.  As someone who has been participating in this RP (as Lexa), I have to say that it has worked quite well and relatively problem free for all the players I have seen participate.  Obviously, with any RP plot, there are glitches, but overall, I am really pleased with it.  To be honest, I find that the criticisms saying that vampire RPs are unoriginal and have no place in Planeshift isn't quite fair.  The Monstrumis Bloodline doesn't force vampirism on players not interested in participating or engaging in the RP plot, nor have I seen any powermongering.  So far my participation in it has focused almost exclusively on character development for my character, Lexa, and helping the storyline along with other players.  I personally haven't interacted with the Vampire Hunters guild, however I have had many very amusing and interesting RPs with people who dislike and want to fight the vampires.

So far, this vampire RP has been one of the most fun and exciting role plays I have been involved in since coming to PS in January, and I would hope that people wouldn't scoff at it simply because it seems cliche.  I think that any RP that engages players and fosters good role play and game involvement is positive and has a place in PS.  If at any point the Monstrumis Bloodline vampire RP disrupts other role plays and role players, then I think some form of intervention or criticism would be warranted, but I hope that until something like this happens, the rest of the PS community can be happy for those of us who are truly benefiting from participating.  I know I am now even more interested in being involved with role playing after all the fun I have been having with the vamps!

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2006, 01:10:35 am »
Indeed. Players are finally responsible for how fun a plot turns out to be. Even if the topic it revolves around has been used many, many times before, it is about what the characters do in that situation what makes the difference. Everyone RPs differently and every character should react in their own particular way to the events that they find themselves involved with. Of course, it is always good to double-check your plot ideas to make sure you don't step beyond settings. So if that has been cleared and if you're having fun, then go with it. We are all free to choose what events we participate in.
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