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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2006, 04:32:28 am »
Not really, the other times I left were for different reasons. But the vampire thing's just getting out of hand. I'm glad the third vampire guild wasn't serious.

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2006, 04:49:16 am »
Settings are not specific about not being able to RP the existence of creatures like vampires. Again, had there been any direct conflict I think the it would have shown in the guild thread. We have to work from what is specified in the settings on, trying to keep consistance as much as possible. I haven't heard anyone from the settings team, the GM team or the moderators team say that vampirism should not be RPed. It is a grey zone, yes, but you cannot dismiss it just because you think the idea is old. That's a different thing.
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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2006, 05:03:38 am »
Settings are not specific about not being able to RP the existence of creatures like vampires.


The settings aren't specific about cell phones either.
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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2006, 05:05:49 am »
So? Post an AT&T Guild thread and you'll see the response from the settings team, mods and GMs. That hasn't happened in the case of the vampires. Maybe it's a matter of time, but those things are usually dealt with pretty quickly.
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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2006, 05:32:07 am »
So? Post an AT&T Guild thread and you'll see the response from the settings team, mods and GMs. That hasn't happened in the case of the vampires. Maybe it's a matter of time, but those things are usually dealt with pretty quickly.


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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2006, 05:34:48 am »
Going against settings isn't a little thing...
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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2006, 05:49:58 am »
But phones are an anachronism since this is supposed to be medieval times. Nothing about vampires forces them to be modern.

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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2006, 07:08:23 am »
after all i had with this vampires rp i can say only one thing, people should realy use brain and they should create something new....

hmm If this vampirism will continue than I swear that I'll create alterchar which will be terminator running arround killing people with his big gun and saying "I'll be back".

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2006, 07:47:54 am »
Socia, honestly I would think of something new if I could. I have all the creativity for it but none of the menas. I'm not exactly well-known in the world, so I wouldn't have much help, and it would be extremely hard to get an RP on its feet. :\ Besides, everyone's so wrapped up in this vampire business that that's ALL I hear EVERY time I go into a tavern and that's almost ALL people will talk about. So naturally if you're not even involved in it you'll never be at this point because they've sort of created a huge bubble around themselved.

But really, I know everyone's complaining, but in the end there's really nothing we can do about it. Sucks but it's true.

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2006, 10:39:54 am »
But  thats what I'm getting at.   My main concern is that with the upspring of all this  out of context  roleplay, which I dont feel really belongs in PS, that Planeshift is going to succumb to a mob of kids who simply want to do their own thing and bugger the  actuall story of the world.  Vampires arent existant in planeshift, again my hats off to the backstory of that guild, but i just have a horrible feeling that with the entrance of vampires goes the settings.
My main concern is that Planeshift is going to go down the plughole....

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2006, 10:58:31 am »
I think it's another phase that is going to blow over. Major kudos to all current vampires that have given real thought to their stories and characters, but these things don't last forever - especially not when many in the community either refuse to play along or actively go against the idea. So let it run its course, let people have some fun with their stories, and then life will continue as it was before. Or, if you're tired of all vampires and wanted to hasten their demise, do just that - seriously hunt them down because you see them as a sort of 'plague'. Roleplay with it, destroy it, and wash your hands :P They'll have fun, and hopefully so will you.

Concerning the settings, there is nothing against "bloodsuckers." But there is nothing "for" them either. The idea does feel old and stale to many, developers included - so the only thing close to vampirism you will see is an HP/MP leech spell in the future, because those are just fun to use. When you use the word "vampire" however, you already make many people roll their eyes - no matter how unique and original your actual version may be, that word has many pop-culture references already that cloud perceptions and expectations.

It's entirely possible to create "bloodsuckers" but give them another name and make them seem -really- outlandish, enough that they don't resemble popular vampires in the slightest - none of that biting the neck, no need of daytime hiding, no "artificial blood" for food; these are all horribly cliche and boring - personal opinion shared by some others.

So I hope they have fun while this lasts, and if they ever want to start something similar up again, I hope they will do a much better job.
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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2006, 11:51:58 am »
the cure for vampirism has been found! an ex member of the guild said and i quote 'i pissed the leader off' there it is, the cure!
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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2006, 12:08:03 pm »
this is what I'm talking about there were found four another cures, there are 4 stories about vampirism.... I and my friends left this RP because of it, you should talk about what is and what isn't .... ok I left this RP i don't have right to talk about anymore i think.

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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2006, 12:12:32 pm »
I've only seen snippets here and there explaining what wrongs are accidentally being done with the current vampires - perhaps addressing those problems directly either here or in guild threads would be a good idea. It can help the various vampire guilds/clans address issues that bother other players and improve themselves. And I'm not talking about the general idea of roleplaying vampires at the moment, but the way the roleplay has been done that people feel may need a few pointers. If the vampire concept is the only thing folks are bothered by, it's not as bad - as I said, it won't last, and you can always find ways of ignoring their stories (though with some effort) if you really don't want to participate.
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Re: Should that be allowed?
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2006, 01:47:51 pm »
Some say that people are upset on this vampires idea because of the name, because its completly different thing and only the name is similiar. I went i reed their story and  wasn't really suprised, by some innovative solutions and ideas. Its still the same sucking blood thing base. Sure there are thousands of different vampires idas, but they always suck blood, infect with vampirism in similiar way, hide and everything whats around it in this or other form. So current idea is nothing new and if they hid it under new name, i would be even more annoyed tha i'm now.

The solution for us who don't want to participate is to ignore. It is no solution at all Its curse. Great, i can semi-ignore it when i think of myself, but what of my friends wit who i roleplay well, but they decided to roleplay vampires, ignore them too? It is getting complicated, your friends iritated why you so stuborn. Furher, i enter the tavern and hear vampires, conclude, that they must be on drugs or somethink if they tell about such idiotic stories. But later my character finds out that they really suck blood and all the stuff, not posible to be denied?

If you think at it from your char perspective, its total madness for him. And for me its damn end of true rp in PS. And later it isnt that easy to behalve like noting happened.



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