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Karyuu

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Re: 1000/50?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2006, 04:49:49 am »
I think perhaps "cheating" is too strong a word at the moment. There is some confusion around this issue, and if there are people offended at the way an announcement was made, please know that it's not intentional and making people angry is never anyone's goal or desire here. Having written announcements here on the forum which can then be carried over into the game is an approach I agree with, which will hopefully take root. Thus if you feel that this announcement was a little hasty and could have been carried out better, offer some suggestions (as already done) and then take a moment to understand that it was never meant to be a personal attack on anyone nor a mass categorizing of players into "cheater" boxes.

Sisilam: If altering properties could be done that easily, as I said, I don't see any reason why we would need to have wipes at all. But I do not know the details of the DB and its workings, and this is something perhaps better addressed to Bereror (who will hopefully take a look at this thread).

To everyone: the important thing is to keep in mind our intended max quality - now that you are aware that weapons over 300 are a mistake rather than the intention, what you choose to do is up to you. You can continue making the bugged weapons, or you can put your effort into things that will last a bit longer.
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Re: 1000/50?
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2006, 04:56:41 am »
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..... but the point that I was faced with the statemnet that crafting such a blade is cheating and is BAD BAD EVILst

I can understand your confusion. If it was bad and evilish I would think they would just not impliment the system at all until it was working right. Yet they have left it for people to play with .... so if it is bad and evilish then why hasn't the system been shut down exactly? I think we are supposed to test it are we not? It could be debatable if you are in a duel and using such a sword, but I cannot see how this would effect the game or anyone else for that matter if you are making these swords. You are just playing the game with the option to play with an unstable crafting system. I see no wrong in that. If it is wrong then I would personally like to see a dev posting here and telling me the reason. This way I can actually take it seriously, because to me it seems silly that playing with this system is wrong.

[edit] Darn Karyuu you are a fast poster. Oh well I am still posting as I don't want to waste it.  :)
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Re: 1000/50?
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2006, 05:07:05 am »
I guess you both Akaye & Karyuu are right ...

I should cool down a quite moment .. maybe I should as well beg Tarel for pardon to firing up like that .. but my heart realy bumped high in the second I read the Worldshout and adrenalin sometimes stop people from thinking well.

Maybe with the new Infosystem I implemented for ACraig we have now soon another option to post those Informations easily to the Players even before login time.

I guess I should know that it was meant not that offend but as a good advice to stop this or having this items lost soon.

@Karyuu: in fact it is mostly a mysql command taht has to be run .. but someoen at least have to take a look at the querried tables need for that and this time I guess no one will do because a clean table is far more easy to fire. I guess I will take a look at the neccessary Tables and post that as a patch in the bugtracker to avoid that wipe.
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Re: 1000/50?
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2006, 05:15:30 am »
Sisilam just to admit that maybe it is time for you to cool down is awesome. Something I rarely see in these forums. Heck we all have our days. I have made some pretty stupid posts at times. Karyuu had to beat me with a pm stick and remind me of myself. You are passionate about the game, and for that I am sure the ps developers are happy and should be proud that they have created something that people really appreciate. In return they exercises patiences at our little out brusts we may have at times.
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Re: 1000/50?
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2006, 10:20:59 am »
We are expecting that skilled characters can craft items which have the quality between 200 and 300, maybe a little above 300 in very rare occasions. Crafted items are supposed to have higher quality than items bought or looted from NPCs and it will stay so.

Items in the database with very high quality can be reset to 250 or 300 with one single SQL statement. In a fact, we have already done it at least once in the past without deleting these items. It just doesn't make any sense to reset items now without fixing the reason, why we are getting them.
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Re: 1000/50?
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2006, 07:20:15 pm »
Items in the database with very high quality can be reset to 250 or 300 with one single SQL statement.

Awesome, learn something new every day That'll be a big relief to everyone.
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Re: 1000/50?
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2006, 08:10:53 pm »
so now theyre going to reset them???


i just sold all my above 300/50 weapons as to avoid a lashing...


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Re: 1000/50?
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2006, 08:56:38 pm »
We are expecting that skilled characters can craft items which have the quality between 200 and 300, maybe a little above 300 in very rare occasions. Crafted items are supposed to have higher quality than items bought or looted from NPCs and it will stay so.

Items in the database with very high quality can be reset to 250 or 300 with one single SQL statement. In a fact, we have already done it at least once in the past without deleting these items. It just doesn't make any sense to reset items now without fixing the reason, why we are getting them.


I remember that ... when crafting started i made 1000/50 and the next day it was 500/50 ... then the next day 300/50.
For a long time people thought it wasnt possible to make them again because they thought that would happen.
I proved it could be done and started wildfire of crafting after i showed a few people them.
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Re: 1000/50?
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2006, 09:02:19 pm »
so now theyre going to reset them???


i just sold all my above 300/50 weapons as to avoid a lashing...


:'(

you and me both... hmm, reimbursal time! >_> I might start to make a few weapons for people who've lost out... I'm nice like that