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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2006, 04:47:12 pm »

My first experience with Drahlian was taking her on after she threatened the lives of a group of dwarves.  I used light green potions during the match so I wouldn't actually have to kill her, but she just kept attacking me with hit and run attacks so I had to put an end to it.  5-10 minutes of angry /tells later.... so yeah, bad first impressions.  After that, she went around bad mouthing me, especially to her guild.

So.... yeah.

Why would you not attempt to kill her after you challenged? If that was not your intention to begin with you could have used a /tell to ask her not to duel but to RP a discussion. If I was RPing and someone arrives and challenges me based on my RP, I would consider it cheating to use potions of any kind without a prior OOC agreement or warning (at least a God-like explanation like "My character is uber-uber-uber powerful so I always duel with potions").

But since Drahlian was mentioned I gotta say I also joined Dwarvesbane for a while (under a spell too), and I learned a great deal about RP. However, I do remember that even some GMs could not tell the difference between IC and OOC with that particular RP. So, yes, evil is misread so often that it seems and that's why we need to have OOC agreements as they unfold instead of "disclaimers". This does not take anything away from your RP but keeps it safe and, more importantly, enjoyable by everyone.
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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2006, 05:01:24 pm »
Hello Silyph:
I got to tell that in pshift world there are gms and gms,and no all of you act the same way,becouse you are not machines ,but sometimes as Ihave did,you and we all make mistakes,im not talking of you or about noone in concret,but it happens,and is a fact that sometimes players abussed of reporting (and im sure also use tells as asurrance the winning in matter in fact).and as i say there are good players who go provocating and searching reactions and when they get yours one make reports and come back to be the lawful character,and when you intents to explain this,you are not hearing,that hurts.
 noone gm had explained me the answer of a gm that i have received lastly.dont give name
and i know im not an  :innocent:,but i think i do not a bad rp.
please explain me this as i were 4 years old,is this a gm answer to a trouble???
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my last trouble begun when a dwarf intents sell to a friend a ruined battle axe by 3 k ,i was informed and i speaks not politely at this person not to sell weapons at excesive price,i told the rules of 25 % over the original selling price,all this  arrive at a GM and its answer was this: that rule was an advice in the forums and that was an as indicative rule and ,what set me congealed was that told me  that yliakum has undergone a great inflation.... somebody  explains me  this please- the rules as I see that they are applied to greater or smaller rigor depending on who broke it.... Who are the judge to do worth the rules
the rules of the forum are rules or are behavior advice?
the rules of the forum change of strict rules to behavior advice depending on the person who this implying in the question. it is what I see

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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2006, 05:34:09 pm »
Hello Silyph:
I got to tell that in pshift world there are gms and gms,and no all of you act the same way,becouse you are not machines ,but sometimes as Ihave did,you and we all make mistakes,im not talking of you or about noone in concret,but it happens,and is a fact that sometimes players abussed of reporting (and im sure also use tells as asurrance the winning in matter in fact).and as i say there are good players who go provocating and searching reactions and when they get yours one make reports and come back to be the lawful character,and when you intents to explain this,you are not hearing,that hurts.
 noone gm had explained me the answer of a gm that i have received lastly.dont give name
and i know im not an  :innocent:,but i think i do not a bad rp.
please explain me this as i were 4 years old,is this a gm answer to a trouble???

Yaay, it only took reading 5 times that post to get your point...
So... you are saying that some people harass you in order to get a similar response from you? I can understand why would one harass another that harassed him in that case... Well, I actually don't. If somebody is harassing you in order to get a response so he/she can report you, why don't you report him/her in the first place?  ::| And I don't mean you, Riluch, I mean you players. I did it because he started isn't the best excuse, and because, like some guys who lived a long time ago said, "verba volant scripta manet" we will only act on proofs, like something written.
As for the scrolling pretty thing, I didn't got what you ment. Did you mean something or were you just trying to hypnotize people? [Joking] The sentence "is this a gm answer to a trouble???", besides having far too many "?", is very confusing. What answer to what trouble?

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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2006, 05:50:41 pm »
why i do not report first...becouse i am against reporting ,if i can resolve myself the matter
2-im not trying to hipnotize..man i am not David Cooperfield
3-the trouble is easy to see:
a player who sell weapons over  of 25% more than the original price(this case a ruined battle axe by 3k)
i speak with him ,the players denies all,an further starts saying im on diffaming his character
4-the gm answer is that the rule of 25%in rules of forum is and advice and i must know that Ylikum has a great inflaction in prices(its not serius)and the web page is not actualized where is that rule.if its true say it and dont make fool who take our time to read it and then put in practice in game

got it?
is harassment try to get adventage from newbies or others?sell it at this price is such a stealing

sorry by my english ,it is harder speaks and specially write english when is not your maternal lenguage.
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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2006, 06:11:46 pm »
@datruth: I disagree... I wouldn't say she is the best at evil rp'ing... she is in fact not realistic about it trying to do her plots at harnquist where the goodies usually hangs out... how would it be realistic that people knew her evil plans and she could just get away with it? Not realistic...
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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2006, 06:18:23 pm »
Sell items for whatever prices you want. There are no rules on that.

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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2006, 06:20:45 pm »
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@datruth: I disagree... I wouldn't say she is the best at evil rp'ing... she is in fact not realistic about it trying to do her plots at harnquist where the goodies usually hangs out... how would it be realistic that people knew her evil plans and she could just get away with it? Not realistic...

sorry im here only 5 months .is the place near hanquist ,a site who belongs exclusively to good fellows?
why is not realistic a rp when she did it near harni?
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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #52 on: September 14, 2006, 06:27:30 pm »
why i do not report first...becouse i am against reporting ,if i can resolve myself the matter

Ok, so... you are against reporting. And you can solve your own problems... Well, regarding that I can say only 2 things. Good for us because we have less reports to read and bad for you because that's the thing about reports, they alow us to help you when you have a problem. If somebody reports you, will we trust the writen text or your excuse? And about fixing your own problems... Players should not play cops, that's the GMs job.

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a player who sell weapons over  of 25% more than the original price(this case a ruined battle axe by 3k)
i speak with him ,the players denies all,an further starts saying im on diffaming his character
4-the gm answer is that the rule of 25%in rules of forum is and advice and i must know that Ylikum has a great inflaction in prices(its not serius)and the web page is not actualized where is that rule.if its true say it and dont make fool who take our time to read it and then put in practice in game
Who's fault is that you bought a too expensive weappon? Did somebody put it in your hands and took the money out of your pocket? Nope. Should we have a rule preventing people to sell stuff at high prices? Nope. If you are... *tries to find a not offensive word*... unconscious enough to buy a pickaxe for 1 mil trias, who's fault is it? [Well, I bought 4 emmeralds for a high price, too, because of some particular circumstances, but I never complained about that.]

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is harassment try to get adventage from newbies or others?sell it at this price is such a stealing
No, that's not really harassment... And selling it at that price is commerce... Buying it at that price though is... I don't know what to say... bad, I guess.
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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #53 on: September 14, 2006, 06:32:45 pm »
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@datruth: I disagree... I wouldn't say she is the best at evil rp'ing... she is in fact not realistic about it trying to do her plots at harnquist where the goodies usually hangs out... how would it be realistic that people knew her evil plans and she could just get away with it? Not realistic...

sorry im here only 5 months .is the place near hanquist ,a site who belongs exclusively to good fellows?
why is not realistic a rp when she did it near harni?

Okay, a few things...

1: Generaly as peacer said goodie two shose tend to hang out around hanrquist... More so then us villans who tend to hang out at the tavern or int he back allys. :whistling:

2: Actually peacer, you know why its not realistic? and its far from her fault... No one tries to stop her, and those who try simply cannot... Currently the law enforcement of hydlaa is weak, and unformal... The closest thing to justice is what I like to call... "The people's mob" ... which is basicly a bunch of goodies who run around and stand in as the law because they have the power to do so, the peoples mob is very corrupt and has little int he terms of justice... However i wont go into that because that is rather off topic here...

3: The goodies are two busy doing their little pling in crafting to care how many dwarves drahlian kills, and the only goodies that do anything normaly do this.... *ahem* /me sends a healing spell through victum dwarf to cure the disese drahlian put in him.

(I'd like to then refer to daehaz's first post with his wonderful illistration... Now, again, it isn't drahlians fault, because no one tries to stop her, and the ones who do have no idea on how to work with an evil villan in trying to stop them correctly... its not a single step, its a struggle...)

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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #54 on: September 14, 2006, 06:44:56 pm »

My first experience with Drahlian was taking her on after she threatened the lives of a group of dwarves.  I used light green potions during the match so I wouldn't actually have to kill her, but she just kept attacking me with hit and run attacks so I had to put an end to it.  5-10 minutes of angry /tells later.... so yeah, bad first impressions.  After that, she went around bad mouthing me, especially to her guild.

So.... yeah.

Why would you not attempt to kill her after you challenged?



She challenged me.
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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #55 on: September 14, 2006, 07:14:51 pm »

My first experience with Drahlian was taking her on after she threatened the lives of a group of dwarves.  I used light green potions during the match so I wouldn't actually have to kill her, but she just kept attacking me with hit and run attacks so I had to put an end to it.  5-10 minutes of angry /tells later.... so yeah, bad first impressions.  After that, she went around bad mouthing me, especially to her guild.

So.... yeah.

Why would you not attempt to kill her after you challenged?

She challenged me.

You missed this part:

Why would you not attempt to kill her after you challenged? If that was not your intention to begin with you could have used a /tell to ask her not to duel but to RP a discussion.

Whoever challenged, the other had to accept. Why accept a duel you don't want?
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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #56 on: September 14, 2006, 10:15:53 pm »
For a while I was trying to be Evil but I do nuetral so much better than Good or Evil.
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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #57 on: September 14, 2006, 11:29:13 pm »
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Ok, so... you are against reporting. And you can solve your own problems... Well, regarding that I can say only 2 things. Good for us because we have less reports to read and bad for you because that's the thing about reports, they alow us to help you when you have a problem. If somebody reports you, will we trust the writen text or your excuse? And about fixing your own problems... Players should not play cops, that's the GMs job.

Im not talking about play cop in planeshift ,im talking about roleplay the situation,i dont need the feeling to call you with silly things
but others as i said, i think have a shorcut done with "/report comand"
(speacially i dont play cop becouse i heat the abuse of power and the impossed autorithy)
and there were a time ago on the guide of planeshift a point wich told about the 25 %
i was checking up it,and there isnt anymore ::|
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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #58 on: September 14, 2006, 11:42:02 pm »
Whoever challenged, the other had to accept. Why accept a duel you don't want?


Why must a duel end with somebody dieing?



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Re: Save the Evil Ones
« Reply #59 on: September 15, 2006, 02:35:00 am »
3k for a ruined battle axe isn't Going above the price.

Ruined weapons are great for training, and 3k ruined battle axe seems fine to me.

i don't see it as 25% over the original price or whatever you meant, hard to fully understand you.

And i understand some people disagree with me as to who is the best evil character.

That's fine, like i said, it was my opinion, so obviously we all won't be in agreement.

But again, i have to stress, i still feel she is the best at Rping evil.

Remember, just my opinion though.

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