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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2006, 02:52:08 am »
Frak/RayvenD misunderstood - no harm done. He wasn't lying with malicious intent or on purpose, so leave it be.
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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2006, 02:53:03 am »
hmmm, I'VE lost dignity?  ::) It amsuses me that you think your childish rant has in any way affected my dignity. But it's ok, I'm sure where you are from an immature person getting worked up over small issues on insignificant things damages your self-worth and your worth in the eyes of others immensely? Cool ma, I hope that level of intellectual prowess works for you, personally I prefer to be rational about things, especially things which mean very little to me in the grand scheme of things. But then...I have a life beyond Planeshift. I'm really glad for you that I have given you something to give your life even more significant meaning in an unfinished fantasy realm, in fact it pleasures me dearly to know that I have brought so much pleasure to your life  :) Hey I know! Why not put in the wish list that you deserve a medal for being so devoted to the cause of planeshift, i'm sure you deserve it! Hey! I'll even give you a good reference! And now I think you truly deserve a round of applause for your ablilty to 'take away my dignity.' Isn't he a clever little boy? yes he is... yes he is...  \\o//  
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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2006, 02:58:59 am »
hmmm, I'VE lost dignity?  ::) It amsuses me that you think your childish rant has in any way affected my dignity. But it's ok, I'm sure where you are from an immature person getting worked up over small issues on insignificant things damages your self-worth and your worth in the eyes of others immensely? Cool ma, I hope that level of intellectual prowess works for you, personally I prefer to be rational about things, especially things which mean very little to me in the grand scheme of things. But then...I have a life beyond Planeshift. I'm really glad for you that I have given you something to give your life even more significant meaning in an unfinished fantasy realm, in fact it pleasures me dearly to know that I have brought so much pleasure to your life  :) Hey I know! Why not put in the wish list that you deserve a medal for being so devoted to the cause of planeshift, i'm sure you deserve it! Hey! I'll even give you a good reference! And now I think you truly deserve a round of applause for your ablilty to 'take away my dignity.' Isn't he a clever little boy? yes he is... yes he is...  \\o// 
Frak/RayvenD misunderstood - no harm done. He wasn't lying with malicious intent or on purpose, so leave it be.

No one has taken away your dignity but yourself.

And i'll let your comments slide because of Karyuu.

Be thankfull i didn't reply. :thumbdown:

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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2006, 02:59:48 am »
Np, please do, it gives me something to read whilst i'm waiting for the update  :woot:
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2006, 03:02:41 am »
Np, please do, it gives me something to read whilst i'm waiting for the update  :woot:

I'd rather not flame on the Boards and i respect karyuu's wishes.

But please, feel free to reply to any of the previous posts i've made.

I'm still waiting for this proof of yours.... can i have it as a screenshot?

Can you post it here?

I mean they do exhist right?

Or was that a lie too?
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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2006, 03:03:43 am »
Please take it to PMs.
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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2006, 03:20:32 am »
hmmm, I'VE lost dignity?  ::) It amsuses me that you think your childish rant has in any way affected my dignity. But it's ok, I'm sure where you are from an immature person getting worked up over small issues on insignifi...

(Cut because my reply is extremely short, and a huge quote with an insignificant reply just looks silly)

Okay. ROFL. Reading things like that makes my day, it really does. Thanks.

On the topic of over 10 damage, although I'm a little late as it's already been cleared up, I would find it extremely hard to believe that the system would have a bug that causes weapons with damage higher than 10 to not display the correct damage number, as back when special weapons first came out, >10 damage was extremely common (In fact, I had a pair of 54 slash broadswords).
I vaguely remember all of those items being wiped because they were just too powerful, although I wasn't really active at the time, and a limit of 10 damage being put on all weapons, but anyway, I imagine that the code behind all of this hasn't changed much, just the limit on how high damage can go (like I said, 10).. So if weapons with damage HIGHER than 10 DID exist, there probably wouldn't be a bug like that, as it would be using pretty much the same system as before, just with a lower limit.

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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2006, 04:49:42 am »
Yeah that was the reason given but after resent changes you can hit even harder then you could back then with those weapons so the devs aren't very consistent with that sadly ;)

Duels are one hit things again and that is kinda sad really. Loved when it when skill of fighting instead of skill of bugusing appointed the winner ;)

Remember a war with the Twin Blades of Arete where I was fighting four of the oposing guild. I was trained more then those four but their leader was very close so that four at once I wouldn't have surfived so I ran and they followed and I hid behind one of those pilars beside the stairs and suprise attacked and manage to kill them all although their leader was a very close fight who I took last. Good thing they were definately not expecting me to do that or in those days they would have had the time to regroup. *smiles*

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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2006, 04:51:29 am »
Pestilence, a smiley just for you:

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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2006, 09:55:09 am »
Duels are one hit things again and that is kinda sad really. Loved when it when skill of fighting instead of skill of bugusing appointed the winner ;)

Now, let's try this: Look for a skilled fighter IRL and ask him to swing a sword at you while you are wearing chainmail or leather armour. If you die from the first hit... well, that prooves that a skilled fighter can kill you in one hit.
Now, look for a newbie fighter, like, for example a guy that hasn't ever seen a sword, not even in pictures. My bet is that you'll survive a bunch of hits if you know how to dodge them (meaning armour training).
And now, a word of advice: Don't try any of the aforementioned things because there is a chance (a very high one) that you won't be able to take notes and sumarise this experiment because you'll be too dead to write. Instead, just think about it ;)
I bet that the fighting system isn't yet, let's say, "tuned" and the devs will adjust it so it will seem more and more realistic.

And now, on topic: The silverweave attribute gives you a 5X slash multiplier for any item. But... and here comes the intheresting part, if the slash resulted is higher than 10, then the multiplier will be 1. Meaning the weapon will only bear a fancy name but no fancy heat treated-super shapened fancy cuting edge. That's why the LSs and claymores aren't that "sharp". And, if I was to put my 2 trias on it, they'll never get to 13 or 14 or 50 because there is a cap at 10.

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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2006, 11:20:36 am »
Cool, my post is becoming famous :)

Back to the topic.

How can any dagger ever have a more powerful slash than a claymore/axe ? I understand they are faster, and with skill you can stab people in heart and all that (but that's not implemented on this game anyway)

On PS you see somebody stabbing you with a dagger and giving you 300 damage, and somebody else with a heavy claymore/axe and only give you 50 ? (with same skill)

So, I'm stuck with my 3.5 SW claymore & AXE while other people have 7.5 daggers? Hmmmmmm...

I tried the other day with a sw dagger. Level 10 and /7.5 dagger and I managed to do over 100 damage. Used an axe level 38 with /3.5 axe and can't even get to the 100 (hmmmm, balance doesn't seem right here)
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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2006, 11:29:08 am »
Who said anithing about balance? ^_^ Following the same note, how come an iron sword can cut better than a steel one? I'm a metalic materials engineer and, trust me, whatever you do to iron, you won't be able to make a weapon out of it. Well.. the same goes for gold too but this is not the point.  :D
The point is that the weappons are not balanced yet, and in the future, things will be alot different than now.

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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2006, 11:37:52 am »
actually, iron swords were used for years before steel. They were not very sharp and very heavy. They were almost clubs rather than swords, but, they did cause huge damage as once you finally swung them at somebody (don't think that television is even remotely accurate in how swords were used, usually it was a 2 handed affair and very clumsy) they tended to rip a body in 2 from the sheer weight of the attack.
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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2006, 11:38:43 am »
Mmm.. It won't really matter how skilled you are with an axe or sword, if it's too blunt to cut, you may as well be clobbering whoever it is with a mug :P A very sharp dagger will probably do more damage than a blunt sword.

Also, I always imagine the "gold" weapons to simply have hilts decorated with gold, and not actually be made from gold.

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Re: SilverWeave Claymore ? Only /3.5 ?
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2006, 09:05:45 pm »
@Syilph

Just think of it this way. In PS you almost always hit someone. Would this be true in a duel in RL if the both of you are about equally trained? Ofcourse not. If you are both new to it avoiding will probably be pretty easy and if you did hit it wouldn't do much and if you are both highly trained yes IF you hit it would do a lot of damage, but swordmanship in my book is training how to hit someone without having his sword killing you in the proces. So a fight between two skilled fighters wouldn't be over in one hit either. Perhaps over with one succesfull hit in that case but getting to the succesfull hit should be several hits that only make scratches and are more like feeling the others defence.

(On a sidenote that is why armor training is so ridiculous. Avoiding hits is part of your swordtraining not your armor training. Seeing your weapon matters a lot more in how you avoid hits in combat then what armor you are wearing. The only armortraining you do is when you need to get used to the weight so you can move around, but thats it. )

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