Issies and shtuff...

[Apollyon]

I ran it several times, but it only updated once. The consequent times it said no more updates were available.

I can't end the program. Not even shutting down my pc is making this program end, I'm going to have to unplug my pc frmo the wall.



Why is this happening...? This can't happen again, not even once, because my pc has been fried atleast four times, all with very expensive repair costs, because of having to manually turn off my computer too often and various parts of it getting fried.

[Karyuu]

Wait, the updater/client is running even after you reboot your computer..?

[Apollyon]

No. I know I probably should have rebooted after the installation, but it wasn't listed in the advice in this thread so I didn't do it, I told you, I followed your advice to a T. How do I end this program without having to unplug my pc from the wall...? There are two of them open now.

[Karyuu]

How about you just reboot? :}

[Apollyon]

Because it won't reboot with these programs open. My computer can't end them. control alt delete/alt+4 doesn't work iether.

Edit, I go to start ...> restart, and it just does nothing. THis is what it did the first time I ran the PS client -  after waiting for four hours for it to reboot, I had to unplug my pc from the wall.

[neko kyouran]

Apollyon,

All newer computers won't just let you hit the power button and it turns off.  You have t hold the button in for 5-10 seconds depending on make and model of your motherboard.  Pulling the plug should always be a last resort.  Try hitting the restart button, assuming you have one.  I know crappy dells (or i should say all dells nowadays) don't come with a restart button, only the power button.  Even then though, you should be plugging your equuipment into a UPS battery system or at least a good surge protecter, and those have on/off switches on them as well.  Even youy power supply should have a on/off switch on it.

Karyuu, I believe this person means they aren't able to restart becuase their computer isn't shutting down atm. So it's still running in the background.

Edit, looks like some replies while I was typing.  Fingers gotta wake up still. (just woke up  )

Edit Edit, oh, and another thing.  You can kill the process through taskmanager if you want to.  press key combo control-alt-delete, select task maager, switch to processes tab, highlight psclient.exe, select end process.  This is assuming you have given the proper rights to perform such a task on your computer by your local administrator.

[Apollyon]

Pulling the plug was a last resort... I waited over four hours for it to finally end the program and shut down. Yes its plugged into a surge protector...

(slightly off topic:  many places say that those things don't protect anything at all, that, if a power surge comes, your stuff will still get fried. The only purpose it serves me is extra outlets. )

I tried the power button the first time, it did nothing. I'll try it again now. Thanks for your patience, everyone,

*edit*

Alright, I held the button in for like 10 seconds, and ti just shut off, suddenly. How is that different than unplugging it from the wall...? It was the same effect. However, I didn't know I  could do that, and I appreciate it.

And this is a pc, no administrator. The task manager bit did nothing as well, I know that little trick.

I ran the updater after it started back up again, and still no new updates. Only one update for me.

What else should I do before trying to run the client again...?

[neko kyouran]

A little off topic, but a decent surge protector will prevent against most power surges.  The only exceptions being when the surge isn't quite strong enough to trip it.  But in those cases, a good surge protector will trip at a level where the lower ones that can get through won't cuase damage to your system anyways.

A better solution is to run on a UPS.  It's the same thing as a surge protector accept that the computer recieves its power from the UPS.  The UPS takes power from you outlet, stores it in its onboard battery, and the computer draws its power from the battery.  In the case of a surge, the computer is never hit as it stops at the UPS.  The only time when surge protectors fail is when there is low power, aka brownout.  (you may have experiened it, it's when the lightbulbs in your house turn on, but are real weak)  That is what really kills electronics, as electronics are desinged to have a certain amount of power going through them, a lower voltage tends to cause havoc.  But again, a UPS protects against this as the computer is still getting its needed amount even under a brownout, since it draws its power from the UPS batteries.

Ok, I'll be quiet now.

[Karyuu]

Try to run the updater 2-3 more times, then try the client.

[Apollyon]

Hrm, very useful info, thanks.

Edit: alright, I'm on it.

[Keyaz]

holding the power button for 10 seconds omits a forced shutrdowen that overides all other processes, but is still shut down semi-safely, pulling the plug is like pulling out your intestines to go to sleep, doesn't help much

[neko kyouran]

*edit*

Alright, I held the button in for like 10 seconds, and ti just shut off, suddenly. How is that different than unplugging it from the wall...? It was the same effect. However, I didn't know I  could do that, and I appreciate it.

When you first hold in the power button, you send a signal to the motherboard saying you want it to start to turn off.  It then starts to do the needful processes to shut things down.  Also, under win 2k and higher, you may notice that when you shut off a computer in this way, as soon as you start to hold in the power button, it will bring p the log off screen, as the OS is preparing for system shut down.  In summary, doing it thisway, is giving the system a time advance warning that its getting shut off so that it can prepare for that.  As oposed to just pulling the plug, in which the system has no warnng its about to lose power.

edit, then theres keyaz's answer as well.

[Apollyon]

Alright, everything works. Much appreciated everyone!