What I learned today...

[Vengeance]

Here is another link debunking this ridiculous myth:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blpicnic.htm

Why are people always so ready to believe the worst about other people?  So ready, in fact, that they won't even do a Google search before spewing out hateful and made-up crap to rooms full of students?

- Venge

[Learch]

This is why I believe we should first crush all existing religions and then aany religions that attempt to spawn in their places.

Religion = death, hatred, general havoc and *^%&

so an athiest dictatorship ?
Believe what I want you to believe or I will crush you ?

sounds like you have a little hatred yourself.

Peace will never be spread with an iron fist.

Interesting, Laragorn.
I'd assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that the original statement was an attempt at intelligent irony. Sadly, perhaps I was wrong.


FWIW in this specific context, religions had little to do with black slavery in America. In fact, Quakers, Congregationalists, and Welseyans, Methodists and Baptists all played huge roles in the Underground Railway... To say nothing of the formal official opposition of slavery by the Baptists and Presbyterians.

IMHO, black slavery in America had everything to do with economics; nothing to do with religion.

But then again, it's certainly stylish/safe to take broad pot-shots at religion, isn't it.
 

[LARAGORN]

Interesting, Laragorn.
I'd assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that the original statement was an attempt at intelligent irony. Sadly, perhaps I was wrong.

FWIW in this specific context, religions had little to do with black slavery in America. In fact, Quakers, Congregationalists, and Welseyans, Methodists and Baptists all played huge roles in the Underground Railway... To say nothing of the formal official opposition of slavery by the Baptists and Presbyterians.

IMHO, black slavery in America had everything to do with economics; nothing to do with religion.

But then again, it's certainly stylish/safe to take broad pot-shots at religion, isn't it.
 

You may be right in your assumption, but looking at the responding posts, I believe you are not.

It was not I, that brought religion it this discussion. I was only addressing a comment that was brining on many followers.

What you have posted Learch, is basicly the same things i have read and been told about.

Believe me , I am the last person who would bring religion into a forum discussion.

[Learch]

yup.
Totally agree with you, Keyaz.

I just thought I'd try bring some perspective and relevance back to a thread that somehow jumped from slavery in America, to all-inclusive religion-bashing.
My point being, religion-bashing in the context of slavery in America is the REAL irony.

 

I'm done!

[Cyl]

This is why I believe we should first crush all existing religions and then aany religions that attempt to spawn in their places.

Religion = death, hatred, general havoc and *^%&

I, for one, cannot agree. Religious fanatism is an issue that needs a solution, not, however, religion itself. The statement above is, in my opinion, not different from religious fanatism at all, as, as twisted as it may sound, atheism is a kind of religion as well. People tend to see only the dark side of the coin. Aren't there many charitable initiatives stemming from various religions? Also, religion has had, and still has it's various reasons to exists. It is and was there to comfort people looking for answers they cannot find.

[Vengeance]

Affirmation of faith in the existence of no-god takes the same leap and belief that affirmation of faith in the existence of one.  Either you believe that something predates the universe and "Just always has been there," or you believe that the universe itself has "just always been there."

Agnosticism is the true lack-of-faith option.

- Venge

[Kalika]

what if you dont beleive in either?

im an agnostic...but i do have faith, not a religious faith that there is a mono or poly god, but that there is a force that lives in each of us, in everything that is her or there

i dont claim that the universe, and the other ones beyond that, were necessarily "created" or that they have jsut always "been there"

why couldnt life create life?

i dunnos...im no theologian

edit: never mind ignore what i said..it prolly had no relevance ot the topic anyways