Exclusive "RPs" in highly public areas.

[zanzibar]

If you're having one of your "RPs" and you aren't keen on the naturalistic or organic approach - that is to say, you don't let anyone join it - then perhaps you should exercise common sense and avoid holding it in an extremely public place such as in front of Harnquist.

If you insist on having it in a public place, don't get snooty if others try to join in.  You really shouldn't get snooty in reaction to people simply reacting to you like a normal person would.  I probably don't have much sympathy for you in the first place, but I have even less if it seems you're going out of your way to create trouble for yourself.

[Keyaz]

ooh ooh! pick me!

yeah, I (for once) completely agree.

over the past week or so, I've been seeing people RPing, joining in on most occasions too, generally this new wave of 'evil' RPing attempts (you know those peopel that think evil is runnign around killing people and being invincible) has continuously come up in public places, first with rinasho at harnquists, then some guy in the temple (I proceeded to explain to him that by oding such things in the temple the priests and people visiting to pray would have lynched him in seconds) and then the same guy is in the tavern ><

i eman come on, if your;e going to sadistically murder someone you're going to take your time to do it, enjoy doing it and ensure you are not disturbed in such things by being well isolated >_>


so many times i've felt like just walking up to the so called 'unstoppable' evil guy and jamming a dagger through his eye socket, because in reality, that's what my character would do, none of this weepy "oh noes he's evil!" malarke

/endrant

mm cookies

[Karyuu]

Sounds interesting. Can I get a vague example of the snootiness? I'm presuming it's very clearly OOC.

[Keyaz]

oh no, it's all been 'IC' just done so poorly it disrupted many other players RP to a point that I got fed up with trying.
it bugs me that everyone seems to RP some hero or evil mastermind with unbeleivable abilities already, me? no, I can just about hold my own against the wildlife, I'm learning the crafts and happy with it, that is until some evil guy comes along, murders someone, then goes invisible due to their 'stealth skills beyond measure' then a hero guy comes running in and the two start dodging each others atatcks before even throwing them. *deep breath*

guess i'll just go now..

[zhai]

Reminds me of some other discussions...

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25257.0: About God-RPing. The funny thing about this is that nobody ever does it, yet we keep seeing it. The God-RPer will deny they do it, and even say they hate it when others do it... Guess we should call it "miracle" RP instead.

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25360.0: About some evil RPing. Some actions that are presented as evil are more chaotic than evil, actually...

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=24849.0: About meetings and "secret" conversations in the middle of the plaza. Don't expect to have a private conversation if you choose to talk surrounded by 100 innocent bystanders.

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25504.0: And about more evil RPing...

[zanzibar]

Not to discredit what Keyaz is saying, but I'm also thinking of RPs involving good characters who should be receptive to interactions with those around them, especially given their choice of location.

I have a theory.  It's possible that these individuals pride themselves on their ability to roleplay, act, and write storylines.  They want to broadcast their activities and show off to the community just how elite they are at their craft.  But at the same time, they want to highten their elite status through exclusiveness.  Their goal is to have others 'around' but not 'involved'.

I find it distasteful.  Not only is it bad roleplaying, but it's bad for the community - especially new players who want to get to the good stuff instead of killing rats.

[Robinmagus]

I agree. Besides, everyone knows that only I can RP evil. My skills in roleplaying, acting, and writing storylines exceed everyone elses. Only a select few can rp with me, I'm too damn good. God asked to join the group, denied.

* Robinmagus stops copying zanzi's post.

But really, I'm getting alot of the, "Join MY rp? I've been here for hundreds of years and you're obviously new." reaction. Punks. RAWR

[LigH]

If it wasn't you ... on, no, then I would confess that I'm biased...
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Well, I don't feel blamed, simply because I appeared way too late. At least so it was easy for me to play "Ignore that guy, I don't know what he's crying about." This is all I heard from you - obviously only the rest of some whining and wailing:

[ Removed a quote of 6 sentences, only containing cries about someone who came back, and then would never come back again... ]


Reading this thread now, I wish I appeared earlier to witness such a great and well planned roleplay, which was not taken as a gift by everyone. I could only rate correctly what I saw as a whole...

[zanzibar]

LigH, your post is a bit schizophrenic.  Could you clear it up for me?  I see a chatlog of something I said in game today but I'm not too sure what is has to do with the thread.

I'll stop "whining and wailing" if you start making sense.

[LigH]

Oh, I can be hard to understand sometimes...

As I wrote: All I heard from you, when I appeared at the plaza, was that in the quote. So I am sure you don't mean the little group I met and talked with, when you complained about "exclusive RPs".

Furthermore, people ignoring major action around them is quite usual. Unfortunately, of course... I am not surprised anymore about people who prefer not to settle a fight next to them, but rather mock about a victim bleeding at their shoes.

Not everyone is always an adventuring hero.

[zanzibar]

Ok... so I made a thread about people doing stupid things, and you came to the conclusion that I was talking about you?  Is this an admission of guilt on your part?

By the way, it's against forum policy to post logs like that without permission.  I don't recall you ever asking me for such permission, nor do I recall ever giving it to you.  And I'm still not sure why you're accusing me of "whining and wailing", or how anything I've said could be interpretted as such.  I'm still more interested in this inadvertent admission of yours, but I figure in the interest of good communication we might as well make sure we fully understand one another.



Edit:  Kind of implicit in the above is the request to edit your post to remove the inappropriate content.  Making posts that drip with sarcasm and thinly veiled insults is one thing, but posting an editted log is just rude.

[LigH]

and you came to the conclusion that I was talking about you?

No - exactly the opposite.

Apart from my point that no one is "guilty" when he decides to ignore one roleplay over another.

And the (removed) snipped only contained the "proof" that I missed your roleplay. If that offends you, then I can only quote DaveG.

[bilbous]

well I suppose there may be a reason to post here about such role players but chances are good that whoever it was that was conducting the offending play will never see it as they do not follow the forums. It would seem to me that the appropriate action is to gently mock IC the play by treating the character as someone who is clearly delusional. the more amusing you can be the more likely they will get the picture. Of course "gently" is the key word in the phrase. You must try to get your point across in a way that does not offend but merely edutains. If this doesn't work, well, you are not the RP Police, so ignore it and go somewhere else where you don't have to be bothered by it.

[zanzibar]

and you came to the conclusion that I was talking about you?

No - exactly the opposite.

Apart from my point that no one is "guilty" when he decides to ignore one roleplay over another.

And the (removed) snipped only contained the "proof" that I missed your roleplay. If that offends you, then I can only quote DaveG.

You concluded that this thread had nothing to do with you, so you made a post proving that you weren't responsible?  You even went so far as to post a chatlog of this kind of thing not happening?

It seems obvious that you think what I've been getting at happened during the event you were witness to.  You saw the whole thing though, apart from something that happened a number of days ago.  That's the sum of my involvement in that roleplay this time around.  But it's slightly odd that you would relate that whole thing to this thread.  Was something said to you that fueled your interest in this thread?  Also, what does DaveG have to do with it?

In a situation like the one you brought up, I think it would be entirely in character to dismiss the person as some lunatic going on about nothing.  There are times when it's in character to be dismissive of others, even if you're suggesting that this particular event was influenced by something out of game.


Edit: This statement of yours is weird:

Apart from my point that no one is "guilty" when he decides to ignore one roleplay over another.

What does this mean exactly?

[Under the moon]

You can not Roleplay everything, nor every story that others are playing. It is not possible. Some things must be ignored. Deal with it, as that is never going to change. If you want a world that reacts to everything anyone ever does, and you have to have a response to all stimuli, follow these instructions:

1: Turn off PS.

2: Turn off your computer.

3: Rotate your chair away from your keyboard and get up.

4: Find a thing called a door.

5: Open it an go through if you see sunlight, or feel the wind. If not, find another door until you do.

6: Congrats. You have just entered a fully immersiv world where everyone has to follow the same rules.

7: Enjoy.

If you can't handle that, then you will just have to deal with some people roleplaying that the plaza is empty, even though it is not. Simply do the same in turn. Roleplay that they are not there. Stop being a ruleplay nazi.