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Peacer

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Re: ooc
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2006, 12:08:46 am »
@peacer--have fun under the big rock, and btw i ahve told these people in /tell (oh no! i forgot that were not supposed to do tell because it is bad bad bad) to please move the conversation somewhere else or just not talk at all...soeone was tlaking about david bowie and greeting no one about 15-20 times in a row, not to mention his other obnixious attitudes

my mistake then :) i'd like to know your approach then, i trust that you do something like "coupld you please move those chuck norris jokes to /group or something :/? it's pretty hard to follow the IC conversation with the ooc clutter :(" and not "noob don't talk ooc here i'm trying to rp" the second works best and let it be known that i'm kitting.. haha "kitty"ng... jokes aside i'm going to bed i sound stupid

edit--im sorry, i really wish my tone wasnt so harsh i sorrys  :'(

* Peacer hugs kalika

meh you're just saying that... have a rose :flowers:
« Last Edit: October 11, 2006, 11:52:51 am by Peacer »
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Re: ooc
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2006, 12:55:16 am »
*hug* oh peacer  :flowers: you dont sound stupid

thanks for not bein mad...i re read it and was like  :thumbdown:

bad kalika bad  :'(

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Re: ooc
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2006, 11:25:32 am »
ok, Kalika, I checked my logs and I am the one who told you to stay talk IC.
It was not a warning. Simply a /tell. Like done to the others seen having OOC conversations in puplic places. It's simply a reminder. You could have answered me in /tell before thinking about posting here or PMing others. The player you were talking to between () did answer me to precise it was about an IC guildmate. Why didn't you do the same?
Did you deserve such a reminder or not?
Maybe not, the fact is that I did not listen to all your conversation to know what it was about. Spying private conversations is not my goal. But I was passing by Harnquist a few times and each time in the previous minutes I saw some () sentences from the two of you.
If you had taken time to /tell me, be sure that I would have apologised and encouraged you not to use () when you character is speaking. So accept this late apologies and remember next time that when a GM talks to you, you can always anwser as you would to answer any private message you recieve. Solving ingame problem is the reason why we are ingame.

About other players you saw talking about David Bowie, if you don't want to leave your RP to contact them, you can always  try to contact an online GM you find in /who or petition when they are really annoying. We can only deal with what we witness or when warned by victims.

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Re: ooc
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2006, 11:59:34 am »
ok, Kalika, I checked my logs and I am the one who told you to stay talk IC.
It was not a warning. Simply a /tell. Like done to the others seen having OOC conversations in puplic places. It's simply a reminder. You could have answered me in /tell before thinking about posting here or PMing others. The player you were talking to between () did answer me to precise it was about an IC guildmate. Why didn't you do the same?
Did you deserve such a reminder or not?

Well, if you reminded the person before her, and got that answer, and Kalika was who was being talked to in ()'s probably not as you could have figured that they were talking 'bout the same thing :).
If you asked her first... he gave you the answer afterwards, and you still got it :)

bad kalika bad  :'(

nah already told you, nothing bad :P
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Re: ooc
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2006, 05:20:14 pm »
You see, there are a lot of people who think roleplaying is being an actor on a big stage, or being a character in the storybook. These same people seem to think IC is you and your friends standing in a circle outside harnqist swapping stories, and anyone who trys to communicate with you is OOC.

Also, people are over-sensitive around people who aren't good with RP and I think some of the more experienced roleplayers sometimes forget not everyone's as good as them.

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Re: ooc
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2006, 07:03:47 pm »
listen, hadfael, there is no need for an apology or explantion

i know that i couldve handled the situation better, but i didnt...thats my own fault

i wasnt trying to make this a big deal...i was jsut trying to relieve some frustration on my part after having what seems like a hellish week...i didnt mean to seem as if i was blowing this out of proportion and taking it out of game.that not what i wanted to do. i didnt mention any names becase i jsut wanted this to be me taking some of the load off my shuolders...

im sorry if i was rude or something

it wasnt my intention

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Re: ooc
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2006, 12:22:46 pm »
You were not rude.
You pointed something that can help me (and probably many GMs) in the future, as well as expressed a rather common misunderstanding on the players side.

So let's move this to a more general tought adressed to anyone who takes time to read this forums:
- When a GM contacts you, it's not always that you did something really bad and are about to be banned from PS and the internet for the comming next 10 years :)
- When any player asks for you to change something in the way you act ingame, it's not always an attack nor a reason to fight. It can simply be a request or an information about something you did not notice.

GMs can also give advices to prevent an error to spread and become a "rule" de facto.
Let's consider the use of OOC brackets or parenthesis in PS:
From the beginning, it was admited that ingame chat was for RP only. And when needed, to clarify a technical aspect or the way its consequences are interpreted IC, the use of [], (), (()), ... is required. So, for a long time, nobody said anything about   what was said OOC as long as quoted. But this tolerance, was misunderstood and people imagined that they could have a fully OOC conversation. That's why many GMs had to remind players that commenting the OOC reason for an IC action did not mean to talk about random real life gossips. It was a reminder, not a threat. But this made a great noise in the forums. But in facts, almost nobody had to be warned, muted, kicked nor banned.
GMs are too often seen as law enforcement only. This is not the primary goal. Of course, we have tools to punish when we needed. But we will always prefer to prevent troubles than to act when it's too late.
At the same time I would be happy if remarks, advices, comments, ... made by other players would not be seen as a will to attack you, but more an attempt to share a point of view.

If a player (or his character when it's done IC as it should be done when possible) tells you to stop doing something that annoys him, too often, it's the begining of a conflict. It could at least be the begining of a dialog or a change of way on your side. An exemple: "PlayerA says: [please, use [] when talking OOC]", "PlayerB says: I do what I want. Are you a GM?". If you were playerB, next time try "PlayerB says: [My mistake, thank you for reminding me]". Better no? ;)

In this exemples, I refer to something that is writen in the players' policies. But it's also true for other behaviours that are not explicitely mentioned in the guidelines. Like steping inside people as if they were not existing nor important, KSing, ...

It's not easy in writen chat to percieve the differences between an advice, a warning and a threat. But simple words like "Please", using conditional instead of imperative forms could help everyone. It's simply not that easy when we are not so fluent in english than we wish. This applying to writing and to reading, it can be good to keep it in mind, whenever we tell or read something ingame.

Have fun (<- this is not an order even if when saying it I am a GM ;) )