Duel Points

[Gharan]

[if this is the wrong place please move to the appropriate place thankyou]

I thought it might be fun if we all shot up our current duel points to see who has the most [daft i know but im intrigued]

Im currently standing at 71.59

[my moneys on unar]

gharin mumbles still cant kill her

[ramlambmoo]

Im at -61, beat that.

I think its a pretty silly thing to compare, since its so easily abused, and contrary to the point of the game.

[zanzibar]

+95.something.  I've lost 10, 10, and 12 due to bugs, so it only says I have 63.  I haven't done much duelling in almost half a year though.

[Peacer]

could have had 800 because dp doesn't mean much to me... reasons: killed by laanx when i was a noob, and unsticked in matches agaisnt training dummies <.< (lost 127 on one of them)

killed unar a lot of times gharan ... however i think there are probably some with more duelpoints than me, i don't duel much

[lorina]

im in the minus hundreds because of my red way prtoblem every time i duel and loss i loose 50 dp

[Proglin]

He! -124, cause of exessive tournament testing, I lost only 2 fair duels though.

[Drahlian]

I have 410 duel points.

-Drahlian

[Ithorius]

0.0 - Ithorius (never dueled)
-36.00 - Saracen (blame laanx for that)
8.31 - Rethius (fair duels.... used to have more before proglin started hunting me that one time ^^)
-1.00 - Holdan (died from kaapio, after he hired unar to kill kaapio...)

[Croconil]

I dont do much dueling, but like, -14 or something?

[Suno_Regin]

Oh please. Mitaki's at 421.

[Seytra]

I completely second ramlambmoo. DP are pointless and diametrally opposed to the spirit of PS. I know that they are supposed to some day have a place and a meaning, but until that day, I think they should be taken out. Failing that, they should at least vanish from sight completely.

How about you start comparing something more PS-y for a change? Like your ratio of IC vs. OOC?

[Suno_Regin]

We do it because it shows a duel history. Some of us are warriors, and like to compete with eachother. Even if they have no meaning to you, they mean a lot to us.

[Seytra]

We do it because it shows a duel history. Some of us are warriors, and like to compete with eachother. Even if they have no meaning to you, they mean a lot to us.

I'm more inclined to believe that they are not so much duelling history, but numbers. Numbers that can be increased. And we all know how much appeal increasable numbers have on players.
The DP measure how much you have duelled, sure. They even measure what the approximate relation, as percieved by the system (probably by merely comparing the amount of PP each char ever gained), of the duellers was. Great. But I don't see your chars compete against eachother, I see you players compete against each other. DP are PS's idea of "lvl" in "Wutz Ur lvl?".

If your characters are warriors, then why do they bother calculating some abstract number, thereby obliterating any and all individual cases of fight? Wouldn't they be more likely to brag about how they managed to defeat X, even though X had been defeating Y with ease just days before? Wouldn't the respect gained from the canny and memorable fight make the word spread? Wouldn't they rank only by tournaments, not by training fights?

I guess no, because within the fighting system, there cannot be any canny and memorable fight, not even with hit&run. I guess that there's so unrealistically much fighting going on that no single fight gets remembered at all. In fact, there are so many fights that the individual fighters become insignificant, and the only thing that remains is some statistic. A statistic that ultimately doesn't refer to a character, but to a player, as was the purpose all along.

[Suno_Regin]

What are you going on about? >.>

The points are there so we can OOCly compare with eachother and see who has a better duel average. That's OOC though, O-O-C. Anyone who roleplays their wins and losses, like I do sometimes, might say in the tavern or when challenging someone "I've had 39 wins and 1 loss" or something like that. Your character keeps a personal score, while OOCly you keep a point score. Sure, the points don't do anything, but they're fun for comparing like we are in this thread.

[Seytra]

What are you going on about? >.>

Precisely about what you say:

The points are there so we can OOCly compare with eachother and see who has a better duel average. That's OOC though, O-O-C. Anyone who roleplays their wins and losses, like I do sometimes, might say in the tavern or when challenging someone "I've had 39 wins and 1 loss" or something like that. Your character keeps a personal score, while OOCly you keep a point score. Sure, the points don't do anything, but they're fun for comparing like we are in this thread.

It's OOC. Therefore, it's justification in PS is void. I was expecting tries to justify them as IC, thus I tried to preempt the possible argument about that.
The OOC-ness alone warrants removal from the game interface, and the fact that they measure how well you worked the system is exactly what I said: "lvl", and I believe that a great deal of all duelling in PS is done not for RP reasons, but to increase that "lvl". And since PS isn't supposed to be a MULARP, as is being stated repeatedly by players, GMs and devs alike, it is as opposed to PS's goal as it can be, which warrants completely extinguishing them forever. I think, in PS, one should compete by the quality of one's RP instead.