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[Hadfael]

I knew it was an OOC comment.

What I see wrong in it, is that you assume that your ingame actions have to be witnessed to exist. It's admiting that it did not occur in the game world. There is only 1 world to interact with. And this world is filled with hundreds of people. It is not the contrary. PS is not made of parallel realities between which you can chose to move or invite people. If it was meant to be this way, everyone should be able to run his own server based on the same settings but with only the people fitting his own scenario. It's a good idea, but it's a different project.

[Garile]

I'm sorry Hadfael but your idea of roleplaying doesn't suit me very well.

I don't feel its credible to have that many "fools". I don't think it is good roleplaying either to just act on peoples actions when their actions are OOC.

My character is a person that lives in a world "the setting". So to truely roleplay I would have to only accept the existense of people and actions that are possible with this setting in mind. If someone starts talking about cars and microwaves the guy simply doesn't exist in my characters eyes. To say someone like that is a fool everytime would be very unrealistic. Not to mention it doesn't solve anything and doubt it would be taken any better if not worse then the method suggested here, becuase noone likes to be made a fool.

This isn't about how to react to things that are unexpected. This is how to react to things that are out of setting. How to react to people who do not follow the rules of good roleplay and with that are sometimes even ignoring the setting.

PS: pretty sure Zorbels ment it that Suno shouldn't state things he did not witness becuase he doesn't know what happened. Not that it didn't happen

[Akaye]

Good debate Garile and Hadfael. I guess the quesiton is how do you deal with people who are intent are not following these settings without disrupting your roleplay to the point where it isn't fun anymore? The roleplayers in game that are serious shouldn't have to deal with that sort of thing but there isn't anything to prevent it from happening. So how do you deal with the guy talking about cars and microwaves when you are in a deep roleplay? Do you ignore? I know it isn't realistic to move a whole group of people to avoid the disrupter but I can't really see a better salution other than to play the person seems to be crazy or drunk.

[Edit] What my problem with suno's post was this ....  he seems to think I roleplayed my having the tavern owners fix the roof magically in one day. This did not happen at all. I am not sure where he got this information but he is misinforming people and doesn't seem to have a clue as to what facts about the roleplay were true and which were not. Then he when on to lecture me in a rather rude way when it wasn't necessary because this lecture came from facts that were not at all true. So I said something. Hope that clears it up.

[bilbous]

You could always pretend that they are some otherworldly manifestation due to the crystals magic light, i. e. phantasms or apparitions with no real substance, typically ignored due to their frequent appearance. There is no need to interact with something that only appears to be there.

[zanzibar]

Oh boy.  That probably wasn't the best argument to make in this thread.

[bilbous]

Well unlike some other people, I do not have the god-like power to be always right. 
Certainly it is a slightly different take on other on topic suggestions.

Excessive smileys.

[Hadfael]

A very valid argument on the contrary. It's an valid theory, as valid as any other.

@garile, you play your role in the settings but you don't play in the game virtual reality.
the char exist in the world, the world in the settings. You can't be IC without being in the world.
You are right to ignore cars and microwaves, because they are not part of the settings therefore not part of the world. (you can /report and /ignore those)
But you can not compare swords, to microwaves. swords are in the settings and in the world.

[Phinehas]

I'm not saying she's getting defensive in the sense that she's losing control, I'm saying that she's not going to say, "Perhaps you're right," and let it drop, she's going to keep defending her post to the end, even if perhaps a week or two down the road she comes to think that maybe there was more to it. Simply psychology. Anyway, I'm not saying she's doing anything wrong, I'm just calling on those who believe that there's more to words than face value to, for once, set a good example by dropping this useless argument which is, as you so aptly pointed out, not doing any good for the overall discussion.

Your arguments are so freaking weak that I can't even form a proper response.

Umm... it wasn't an argument, it was a suggestion to drop the topic. I seem to have achieved my ends, therefore we will continue to leave it dropped.

Well unlike some other people, I do not have the god-like power to be always right. 
Certainly it is a slightly different take on other on topic suggestions.

Excessive smileys.

Don't worry, with hard work you might get there eventually.

[zanzibar]

An argument in that sense is when you make a statement and try to show its worth.

[Under the moon]

This has gotten to the point where everyone is just restating points made already, only trying to use new words. Nothing any of you say will change what I do or think, nor will you do the same for each other. Let it go.

In other news, /ignore Hadfeal. He knows why.

[zanzibar]

Nothing any of you say will change what I do or think

That's unfortunate.  Why use the forum then?  Just to change the opinions of others?  Don't you think that's a bit disrespectful?

[Phinehas]

I think he means in this instance. Although you do have a valid point.

Also, I just made a statement. I wasn't trying to defend it's worth. You can think it worthless for all I care. In fact, looking back on all the good it's done, I'm thinking it pretty worthless myself.

[Peacer]

@Garile/zorbels: Why just ignore/tell them they are drunk... that won't help them in any way... it would be better that you as experienced roleplayers taught them about it instead of doing this as it wouldn't help in any way... in most cases they don't know what they're doing wrong as they don't know they should be roleplaying, so they might think that you are just being a total jerk towards them. I'm not saying that this is what you do... but that's what your posts tells. and your posts is where the newbies get their ideas from. They don't see anywhere "Oh, we should teach instead of ignore."

@Hadfael: Isn't reporting a little extreme

[Akaye]

@Garile/zorbels: Why just ignore/tell them they are drunk... that won't help them in any way... it would be better that you as experienced roleplayers taught them about it instead of doing this as it wouldn't help in any way... in most cases they don't know what they're doing wrong as they don't know they should be roleplaying, so they might think that you are just being a total jerk towards them. I'm not saying that this is what you do... but that's what your posts tells. and your posts is where the newbies get their ideas from. They don't see anywhere "Oh, we should teach instead of ignore."

@Hadfael: Isn't reporting a little extreme

 

Did you even read the thread?  Ahhh never mind I am done in this thread anyway and peacer, all of your suggestions are noted but also have been suggested by myself. :/

[Under the moon]

Lock please?