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Siteri Kidachi

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Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« on: November 03, 2006, 09:37:47 pm »
My female Klyros character, Rhicora, has been called "sir" one too many times! PLEASE check the description of any Klyros you run into before using terms such as "sir". This is especially true if you are playing a Klyros yourself, who would certainly know any difference that exists between a male and female Klyros!

On a related note, Kran are not male or female, so you shouldn't refer to them as such. It can be hard to do so, but it'll be more accurate.
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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2006, 10:01:43 pm »
My female Klyros character, Rhicora, has been called "sir" one too many times! PLEASE check the description of any Klyros you run into before using terms such as "sir". This is especially true if you are playing a Klyros yourself, who would certainly know any difference that exists between a male and female Klyros!

On a related note, Kran are not male or female, so you shouldn't refer to them as such. It can be hard to do so, but it'll be more accurate.

Oh yeah... you really owned me when I referred to you as sir :p
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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2006, 10:25:52 pm »
ty for reminding me, I really forget that there are female klyros out there,
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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2006, 10:43:28 pm »
He. She. It.

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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2006, 03:54:40 am »
Really, if you'd just follow my example and refer to everyone as "you there" then this wouldn't be a problem...

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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2006, 04:04:51 am »
Bah, it's not our fault we're confused from your bulging pectoral muscles. :(

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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2006, 04:11:23 am »
Really, if you'd just follow my example and refer to everyone as "you there" then this wouldn't be a problem...

if we all followed your way hell would be on earth...  :whistling:


Anyways... I agree... read descriptions... after all... it is what your character would see... doh.

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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2006, 04:55:53 am »
And I would be king... :D

Anyway, as far as reading descriptions, I sympathize. An annoying amount of people have not bothered to read and therefore discover that  I'M A LEMUR! NOT AN ELF!

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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2006, 07:41:54 am »
My female Klyros character, Rhicora, has been called "sir" one too many times! PLEASE check the description of any Klyros you run into before using terms such as "sir".

ahm yes, that's part of the actual female klyros life :sleeping: I have this problem with mine as well.. of course X-/ as long as the female klyros is stuck with the male model, one is inevitably mistaken(?) and treated as such by strangers most of the time.. that can be quite annoying.. and that is not the only problem a female klyros char encounters.. hmpf..


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This is especially true if you are playing a Klyros yourself, who would certainly know any difference that exists between a male and female Klyros!

differences between male and female should normally be quite obvious to anyone.. it is just that the female model is not available yet.. right? ???

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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2006, 08:42:08 am »
Sorry Siteri... looks like I made the same mistake yesterday too. And no I am not sexist by any means, but I just don't have the time to read everyone's description... especially when we're at a party with truckloads of people.

All these problems will be solved when the female Klyros gets a model of her own. Until then, I'll just say that I forgot my glasses or something since it's not something dead obvious on a first glance.
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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2006, 02:26:16 pm »
The way I think of it is that, since Klyros are reptiles, males and females aren't as easy to distinguish as with the mammalian characters. It's possible if you know a lot about Klyros, though... they would have different physiques, maybe different markings.

Which still doesn't excuse people ASSUMING that any random Klyros they meet has to be male... although this DOES happen with animals in real life. Some people refer to animals as male, saying things like "Oh, look at him go!" even if they don't know for sure.

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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2006, 04:07:34 pm »
A few of us older players (!) may remember that Finara Pund used to have the appearance of a male dwarf. This might have been a mystery to some but we female Stonebreakers know full well the consequences of spending long hours on duty and not having the time to shave.

So it might be prudent to check the gender of a 'male' dwarf before addressing him/her

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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2006, 05:01:56 pm »
Yeah, in general everyone should look at the descriptions as they meet new people. Although, some characters use the description window as a personal diary instead of a "first glance" information page, writing down paragraphs and paragraphs of personal history there is no whay anyone could learn about them just by looking at them heads to toe. But I don't want to go off topic here, just a little rant... anyways, to keep things in order, check this first (and the link in that thread).

Now, on another note: how come Klyros have nipples... or are they... er... something else?

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Re: Don't be sexist with Klyros.
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2006, 05:28:15 pm »
I usually avoid referring to a Klyros that I have never met before with any gender-specific nouns or pronouns until I have had a chance to check their description.  Although we as players can not tell them apart by what we see (the model), I think our characters can.  The same thing applies to telling apart races that share a single model.  Even if I am too busy at the time to read an entire description, I will still pull it up and look for that very important sentence stating that you see a <male/female> <race>.