Magic and Kill Stealing

[LARAGORN]

The same has happend to me on a number of occasions. Attacking with magic from a distance, will always leave you open to have your target stolen from you. The system does not lock the target with magic as it does with weapons attack.

[Nikodemus]

Zanz, Such a short message, but it should make people think.
From one side sarcasm
But from other side it seems very true if a mage want the same rights as warrior. Also that there is actually no way someone else could be KS than a mage, coz speels is the only known to me exception when you can damage a mob after it was damaged by someone else.

So instead writing all this, I thought 4 words will be enough.
There are some conditions when i do it, maybe  because i'm not 90 years oldman, what actually makes me happy, or maybe i don't fear to point out some facts in an obvious to pain way.

The same has happend to me on a number of occasions. Attacking with magic from a distance, will always leave you open to have your target stolen from you. The system does not lock the target with magic as it does with weapons attack.

I can't agree with it. Once you damage your mob with magic, its yours as long as you keep damaging it.

[LARAGORN]

The same has happend to me on a number of occasions. Attacking with magic from a distance, will always leave you open to have your target stolen from you. The system does not lock the target with magic as it does with weapons attack.

I can't agree with it. Once you damage your mob with magic, its yours as long as you keep damaging it.

Unfortunatly it is true, it is not the way it was intended but there is a bug in that area of the combat system and has been there for as long as I have played.

[zanzibar]

Zanz, Such a short message, but it should make people think.
From one side sarcasm
But from other side it seems very true if a mage want the same rights as warrior. Also that there is actually no way someone else could be KS than a mage, coz speels is the only known to me exception when you can damage a mob after it was damaged by someone else.

So instead writing all this, I thought 4 words will be enough.
There are some conditions when i do it, maybe  because i'm not 90 years oldman, what actually makes me happy, or maybe i don't fear to point out some facts in an obvious to pain way.

The same has happend to me on a number of occasions. Attacking with magic from a distance, will always leave you open to have your target stolen from you. The system does not lock the target with magic as it does with weapons attack.

I can't agree with it. Once you damage your mob with magic, its yours as long as you keep damaging it.

People who use magic aren't always mages.  Quite a few people learn the arrow spell just to kill steal, or protect themselves from kill stealing.

[Nikodemus]

For me if you are building a house, you are a builder, doesn't matter its your house and you are going to do it only once.
Same about magic.
Couldn't you quote only this what you have commented, instead of whole post including the very last part? ;s Looks almost like childish^^ But it isn't topic about it and i hate answering on out topic posts, expanding it even furher. Unless it is a normal thing to ask about single opinions, furher every of them in a topic about something else.

[zanzibar]

For me if you are building a house, you are a builder, doesn't matter its your house and you are going to do it only once.
Same about magic.
Couldn't you quote only this what you have commented, instead of whole post including the very last part? ;s Looks almost like childish^^ But it isn't topic about it and i hate answering on out topic posts, expanding it even furher. Unless it is a normal thing to ask about single opinions, furher every of them in a topic about something else.

If someone plays music, are they necessarily a musician?

[bilbous]

For me if you are building a house, you are a builder, doesn't matter its your house and you are going to do it only once.
Same about magic.
Couldn't you quote only this what you have commented, instead of whole post including the very last part? ;s Looks almost like childish^^ But it isn't topic about it and i hate answering on out topic posts, expanding it even furher. Unless it is a normal thing to ask about single opinions, furher every of them in a topic about something else.

If someone plays music, are they necessarily a musician?

yes, just not necessarily a professional one.

[Phinehas]

I don't know what you guys are talking about as far as magic locking a target. It doesn't. I have had this happen to me multiple times, and it's very frustrating. As if it wasn't bad enough that magic was made so completely impossible to train by itself, they had to add the fact that if you use only magic, someone else can walk up at the last second and steal your xp. Drives me nuts just thinking about it, and is probably the reason I don't play the game more.

[Karyuu]

This has been on the engine list of magic bugs for a while now, evidently. Xordan has suggested a way to implement a fix, and Borrillis may be taking a look at it right now. Hang tight :]

[zanzibar]

I don't know what you guys are talking about as far as magic locking a target. It doesn't. I have had this happen to me multiple times, and it's very frustrating. As if it wasn't bad enough that magic was made so completely impossible to train by itself, they had to add the fact that if you use only magic, someone else can walk up at the last second and steal your xp. Drives me nuts just thinking about it, and is probably the reason I don't play the game more.

I didn't realize this.  I thought magical attacks claimed mobs just like physical attacks.

[loux]

i experience the same trouble,
i was attacking a Rogue with weapons near him, and someone "take" the rogue with a magical spell.
You can cast "freeze" on a rogue which is targetting by someone else and there take it !
is this normal ?
thanks
loux

[zanzibar]

i experience the same trouble,
i was attacking a Rogue with weapons near him, and someone "take" the rogue with a magical spell.
You can cast "freeze" on a rogue which is targetting by someone else and there take it !
is this normal ?
thanks
loux

It's cheating, whether or not it's normal.  It's also all too common.

[themule]

In case someone wonders, the OP reported just the opposite. And my kills have been stolen only by fighters, so far. My spells don't lock the target at all. Or if they do, they do only vs. other spells and not physical attacks.

I seems that spells neither lock the target nor obey to previous lock, or that physical attacks and magical attacks don't share the same lock.

I've never reported to a GM, I just add people to my /ignore list.

[zanzibar]

In case someone wonders, the OP reported just the opposite. And my kills have been stolen only by fighters, so far. My spells don't lock the target at all. Or if they do, they do only vs. other spells and not physical attacks.

I seems that spells neither lock the target nor obey to previous lock, or that physical attacks and magical attacks don't share the same lock.

I've never reported to a GM, I just add people to my /ignore list.

I don't understand.  You're saying that you're trying to attack things using magic, and fighters are "stealing" your kills?  That's not even possible.  You do realize that your spells only "lock the target" upon resolution?

[LARAGORN]

In case someone wonders, the OP reported just the opposite. And my kills have been stolen only by fighters, so far. My spells don't lock the target at all. Or if they do, they do only vs. other spells and not physical attacks.

I seems that spells neither lock the target nor obey to previous lock, or that physical attacks and magical attacks don't share the same lock.

I've never reported to a GM, I just add people to my /ignore list.

I don't understand.  You're saying that you're trying to attack things using magic, and fighters are "stealing" your kills?  That's not even possible.  You do realize that your spells only "lock the target" upon resolution?

Zanz, you are not paying attention. It is not suposed to be posible, but it happens every day. I dont know how else to put it, a number of people have confirm it happens to them, but you still dont believe it to be fact. As I stated above, whenever you use magic on a target it is not locked and can be taken by anyone using weapons or melee attack. The devs and the GMs are well aware of this and have been for a long time. Hopfully the plan Xordan has sugested will resolve this bug.