[ORGANIZATION] O.L.P. : A Secret Society

[lordraleigh]

Moderators: After some constructive criticisms I ask you to get this topic trashed away. And my post on the Guilds List as well. Also I'm afraid it may open space for useless discussions about IC/OOC secrecy and even flame wars.

Sorry for the inconvenience...

[Parallo]

Interesting structure but... What do you do?

PS: The Empire dosen't have a rank by that name. 

[bilbous]

If it is so secret shouldn't you just recruit in game surreptitiously without public comment? Is it possible that this is just a ruse to cover for the recruitment of a completely different secret society, one in which only the top echelon really knows what is going on? Are there secrets within secretsand enigmas wrapped in riddles swabbed wit a coating of conundrum? Enquiring minds have no right to know!

[miadon]

hahaha FreeMasons of the PS World, I love it

[lordraleigh]

If it is so secret shouldn't you just recruit in game surreptitiously without public comment? Is it possible that this is just a ruse to cover for the recruitment of a completely different secret society, one in which only the top echelon really knows what is going on? Are there secrets within secretsand enigmas wrapped in riddles swabbed wit a coating of conundrum? Enquiring minds have no right to know!

As a member of the Ministry of Doublespeak, I neither confirm nor deny your conspiracy theory.
[Now we will have conspiracy theorists in the PS community!]

Interesting structure but... What do you do?

"To work towards progress of Yliakum, so future generations may live in a better world" [You can make "conspiracy theories" out of game though, but if you make any new topic, don't forget to put that OOC disclaimer]

[Akaye]

I found the post to be to hard on my eyes to read.  You would think the words being huge would help but actually each letter is like a huge light bulb in my face. Sorry, I would read it further if I could but at this moment I can't stand the layout of the post and now I have a headache trying to read past the disclaimer.

I will try to find out about it in game I suppose.

[Phinehas]

*Matt, with a dazed little man on his shoulder.*

Meh, what was the purpose of posting if you can't tell us what you do? Why would we care you exist? Frankly, this sounds like boasting to me. Some newbie feels the need to lord it over everyone else by informing them that they've been left out of a so-called "secret society". If I started a secret society, I would keep it secret.

[Karyuu]

I'm afraid I had to remove your post from the stickied Guild List - it consisted of nothing but "classified, classified, classified" and therefore is, unfortunately, not useful information for the community. The Guild List is there for players to have a quick look for a guild that may pique their interest, with information on how to contact guild leaders about joining. If you're posting with "We cannot reveal this," then just... don't post :}

[Sangwa]

It would sound nice if any of Bilbous "conspiracies" were right. Probably they aren't. And that would mean you would have failed the first rule of "secrecy" just to feed an attention craving.

[Nurahk]

Hmmm.

It atleast intrigues me.

You said it was an Organisation, am I to assume you will not be using the guild system then?

I don't exactly understand it, probably due to the overuse of -classified-.

You are relying heavily on everybody's Roleplay skill.  Granted their characters may not know but, they will be more tempted to make them find out now.
...

Your choice though.

Opinion: -classified-

[lordraleigh]

I found the post to be to hard on my eyes to read.  You would think the words being huge would help but actually each letter is like a huge light bulb in my face. Sorry, I would read it further if I could but at this moment I can't stand the layout of the post and now I have a headache trying to read past the disclaimer.

I will try to find out about it in game I suppose.

Nope, the disclaimer says it wells: "No one beyond invited members knows about it in-character" and any respectable roleplayer will know about it"

*Matt, with a dazed little man on his shoulder.*

Meh, what was the purpose of posting if you can't tell us what you do? Why would we care you exist? Frankly, this sounds like boasting to me. Some newbie feels the need to lord it over everyone else by informing them that they've been left out of a so-called "secret society". If I started a secret society, I would keep it secret.

I see you know how real-life(OOC) secrets and roleplaying(IC) secrets are just the same thing.

And do you think the disclaimer is too simple for you that you simply avoided reading it?

[Ironies apart, one of the reasons this topic was made is to see how mature is the PS community.
The other is so players know that if they are good RPers their characters may be invited to either
join us or other secret organization]

I'm afraid I had to remove your post from the stickied Guild List...

Sorry, I just posted about it as incentive for serious roleplaying. Didn't know it was just for IC public guilds

You said it was an Organisation, am I to assume you will not be using the guild system then?...
You are relying heavily on everybody's Roleplay skill.  Granted their characters may not know but, they will be more tempted to make them find out now...

Well, the Dark Empire is an organization but still uses the guild system for example.
About the "make them find", we have safety mechanisms. It is a way to increase our challenge and to see if we can stand the pressures as well[And to motivate players to RP seriously too. Anyway I don't think no one knew or suspected about top secret organizations in Yliakum before and this topic won't change it]

Tell me. Exactly who are you to decide who is, and who is not, a good roleplayer? Also, if you're secret IC, but good roleplayers might get invited, that seems wrong. It should be that even if I'm not a fantastic RPer, if my character is the type who would be valuable to an organisation such as this, then he would be invited. You're saying that if I am a good roleplayer(which is OOC), then my character(which is IC) might get invited...

[ I have no grudge against you, just like a bit of irony sometimes. Anyone can decide if one is or not a good RPer as long as one have some roleplaying experience, if your character are one, and needed, it will get invited]

It isn't just for IC Public guilds, it's for OOC public guilds...

[ I wouldn't like to risk that the more sensitive information about OLP "leaks" through a bad RPer. The knowledge of its existence won't disrupt it if the bad thing happens ]

[Phinehas]

Tell me. Exactly who are you to decide who is, and who is not, a good roleplayer? Also, if you're secret IC, but good roleplayers might get invited, that seems wrong. It should be that even if I'm not a fantastic RPer, if my character is the type who would be valuable to an organisation such as this, then he would be invited. You're saying that if I am a good roleplayer(which is OOC), then my character(which is IC) might get invited...

[Nurahk]

I'm afraid I had to remove your post from the stickied Guild List...

Sorry, I just posted about it as incentive for serious roleplaying. Didn't know it was just for IC public guilds

It isn't just for IC Public guilds, it's for OOC public guilds.

And posting a bunch of -classified- will not interest serious roleplaying.

In short, the post was useless.

And don't tango with Phinehas, he tends to win.

[Akaye]

I found the post to be to hard on my eyes to read.  You would think the words being huge would help but actually each letter is like a huge light bulb in my face. Sorry, I would read it further if I could but at this moment I can't stand the layout of the post and now I have a headache trying to read past the disclaimer.

I will try to find out about it in game I suppose.

Nope, the disclaimer says it wells: "No one beyond invited members knows about it in-character" and any respectable roleplayer will know about it"

Hmmm, well seeing as I am not a  "reaspectable role-player" or "Invited member" guess I won't be finding out. 

Anyway Phinehas has a point. How can you judge if a person is a good role-player vs bad roleplayer? Do you have expereince with this sort of thing? Enough to feel confident in making those decisions? Not only that but he is right to say it isn't fair that you over look a character just because they don't role-play to your standards but their character is fit for the job. That isn't seperating IC and OOC and makes me wonder about your role-play skills and what you see as a good enough role-player to join your "secret club".

[lordraleigh]

I found the post to be to hard on my eyes to read.  You would think the words being huge would help but actually each letter is like a huge light bulb in my face. Sorry, I would read it further if I could but at this moment I can't stand the layout of the post and now I have a headache trying to read past the disclaimer.

I will try to find out about it in game I suppose.

Nope, the disclaimer says it wells: "No one beyond invited members knows about it in-character" and any respectable roleplayer will know about it"

Hmmm, well seeing as I am not a  "reaspectable role-player" or "Invited member" guess I won't be finding out. 

Anyway Phinehas has a point. How can you judge if a person is a good role-player vs bad roleplayer? Do you have expereince with this sort of thing? Enough to feel confident in making those decisions? Not only that but he is right to say it isn't fair that you over look a character just because they don't role-play to your standards but their character is fit for the job. That isn't seperating IC and OOC and makes me wonder about your role-play skills and what you see as a good enough role-player to join your "secret club".

You misundertood what I have meant. I mean only invited members should have knowledge about it from a RP perspective. What I have meant by saying any good roleplayer would know about it, was that any good roleplayer would know the fact that his character won't have access to this kind of information.
Also I don't make the roleplaying standards, I've read the RP guide and have made "my" standard based on it : http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=10310.msg125203#msg125203

Too much misundertandings I guess 

Anyway my "standards" aren't so restrictive and even lower than the ones in the RP guide. As long as one don't shouts anything like "Woohoo, I've joined a secret 1337 guild" and is willing to improve his roleplaying skills I won't mind lack of experience in the matter. Guess I should have used less drastic words.

Off topic: I have played some roleplaying games based on D&D universe before PS, so I have some experience with RPGs