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Gharan

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City Guards?
« on: November 27, 2006, 07:22:14 am »
Whatever happened to the City Guard and is there leader still around i believe they are great for certain RP but that's just my two cents.

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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2006, 09:20:25 pm »
Do you mean the Hydlaa Law Enforcement Agency?  That guard group has been disbanded.
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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2006, 10:18:08 pm »
I think I've seen some Santinels around tho

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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2006, 02:13:11 am »
i think the game should have gm's as city guards that can defeat everyone, that way they can really hold up laws... tho then that would leave room for evil people so i take that back

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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2006, 07:11:54 am »
GMs are there to deal with OOC issues - it would get pretty confusing to have to RP everything, especially when we settle OOC conflicts between players or explain bugs. Maybe we'll have a separate IC force once such a thing is really needed. Right now the world is rather small for something like that.
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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2006, 07:21:21 pm »
@Gharan:  Are you thinking of Grunn, the Kran?

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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2006, 02:58:17 am »
Grunn is one of my characters, and still in the Guard to show up once in a while when I can manage it to enforce the illusion of law enforcement. or is an RP has need of him. Weavers run the guild, though they are not very active right now that I know of.  I shall give it a stir next weekend and see what comes up. If I have the new client up by then, that is.

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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2006, 06:50:03 pm »
UtM walking in my footsteps ... well I hope you're having better luck than I had.

If Gharan is talking about the Vaal Guard, which I doubt since we 've been gone for quite a while, it is still around in some form. We no longer have the manpower to call ourselves a guard unit though.

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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2006, 01:37:49 am »
Good to know there is still at least one guard around, i think they are needed.

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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2006, 01:45:52 am »
Good to know there is still at least one guard around, i think they are needed.
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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2006, 01:53:45 am »
Good to know there is still at least one guard around, i think they are needed.

One guard to defend Yliakum from dozens of outlaws?(both from the guild and independent)
That is totally possible... if very near to impossible is still possible
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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2006, 02:09:47 am »
It is odd how so many players equate guarding with fighting. Policing is a state of group mentality, not a billy club.

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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2006, 02:12:14 am »
Not me, am i right thinking they are there to police and we should never try and fight them?

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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2006, 10:07:02 am »
Do you pick a fight with a cop even if you outnumber him? Don't think so because then no police officer would be safe anymore.

You shouldn't think one guard, there may be only a few players that RP guards but for your character, those few players are backed up by an entire military/police force, the law and the vigesimi and octarch with all their men. Those guards are equiped with excellent equipment and for all you know trained to kick your ass. Guards should be respected, sometimes even feared, because they are allowed to use force .. whereas you are not.

I know people will have problems with guards because people still play a game and think .. why should this player be allowed to boss me around, just because he claims to roleplay a guard?

I do think guards are needed to create a realistic  roleplaying environment. They can offer many options and give a lot more content. Downside is they can't be guards if they aren't accepted as guards by the players.
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Re: City Guards?
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2006, 07:41:37 pm »
Just like criminals can't ignore the fact that NPC guards should be part of their RP, PC guards can't do their RP by bossing people around. Placing yourself in a position of authority above other characters is too big of a leap. Guards are needed but specific laws should preceed them so they don't just go out there and think they rule the town just because they are cops. With laws, both civilians and guards would know what limits they should respect to keep order within city walls.

Until we know more about Yliakum law, guard characters will only have the power other players give them. Anything like "You have to do what I tell you because I'm the law" can only be assessed as another way of godmodding. A police character is always useful in RP but just like RL, they should inspire respect in order for their authority to be legitimate.
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