How is Canada Perceived From Where You sit?

[Radiant Memphis]

I say the internet is the only real truthfull news out there. Cause ya know people don't lie on the internet right? 

[Parallo]

After thinking a lot on it and the divide between liberal and conservative I've realised that they're all on the same side anyway. Democracy. Now you need communist, facist, monarcic, imperial and feudal news then you can watch them all and get maybe a few facts.

[Coneitic]

oh thats histerical parallo, really. so funny....


NOT.        

[Parallo]

I wasn't trying to be funny... How can you get the truth if your idea of left wing is so close to the right?

[zanzibar]

canada's media is just as bad as americans. i used to watch canadian news when i lived in new york.

Not true.  Canadian news journalists are more likely to report things that cast America in a negative light.  Americans treat news as entertainment, and so you see American news journalists acting like celebrities and their reporting is tainted with rampant editorialism.  Canadian news tries to be more objective.

no... you have two media types.

republican and liberal

any unbias information you want, you research it yourself.

like most other countries

Republican and Liberal?  Where does the left fit in?

[emeraldfool]

Left? I thought left were the liberals.


At least the way we were taught it, the political spectrum goes Communism -> Fascist, Left -> Right

[zanzibar]

Left? I thought left were the liberals.


At least the way we were taught it, the political spectrum goes Communism -> Fascist, Left -> Right

Liberalism is a moderate slash centralist political philosophy, not left wing.  Left wing means socialist, or very socialist.


Edit:  This is typical of American thinking, and I don't mean to be insulting.  In American society, the center tends to be seen as left wing, and right-of-center tends to be seen as moderate.

[zanzibar]

Oh, something else - there are fascist communists.  Communism is an economic philosophy.  Fascism is a philosophy of governance.  Just as you can have a fascist communist state, you can also have a communist state which is democratic, or a capitalist state which is either democratic or fascist.

By Canadian standards, the Democratic party is a right wing part.  Right of center, but not at all left wing.

[Datruth]

Oh, something else - there are fascist communists.  Communism is an economic philosophy.  Fascism is a philosophy of governance.  Just as you can have a fascist communist state, you can also have a communist state which is democratic, or a capitalist state which is either democratic or fascist.

By Canadian standards, the Democratic party is a right wing part.  Right of center, but not at all left wing.

Democratic communism, that's funny.

But i know what you mean, and while it is possible, that type of communism would fail.
Why?

Because the people would vote to get rid of communism
Eventually anyways.

It is a possibility, and it would be fun to watch.

Right now, the best type of Economic system we have is Socialism, the U.S is actually quite socialistic, with our welfare programs, FDR's new deal, social security.

I mean, i think the only way for a government to survive is to go socialist.

Capitalism, purely anyways, does not work.

~~Datruth

[Parallo]

Socialism is an attemt to spread the nations wealth amongst the nation. Communism is actually doing it.

[Datruth]

Socialism is an attemt to spread the nations wealth amongst the nation. Communism is actually doing it.

Socialism, spreads the nations wealth, see sweden for examples.

Communism, is the stripping of the individuals power, usually the stripping of the people's voice.
Sure your guaranteed a house, and some food, but you don't decide where to work, and you can't really work your way up the social ladder.

Look at china's horrible humanitarian disasters for example.
Very totalitarian in their actions, and events like Tianamen square are why they are hated.

~~Datruth

[Parallo]

China is an example of a misunderstanding of Marxism. True Marxism is different. There is yet to be a proper Marxist nation.

[Datruth]

China is an example of a misunderstanding of Marxism. True Marxism is different. There is yet to be a proper Marxist nation.

What would you outline, as a proper marxist nation?

What would your government be comprised of?

Be very specific, I'll outline my perfect government after you, we can contrast and compare then.

But i'm interested in what you feel would be a proper marxist nation, that would prosper.

~~Datruth

[Parallo]

Read the Communist Manifesto. Its on wikisource. Its not the ideal government but in a world comprised of ideal people it would be. The world wil never be ready for it.

[zanzibar]

Right now, the best type of Economic system we have is Socialism, the U.S is actually quite socialistic, with our welfare programs, FDR's new deal, social security.

Not to mention your healthcare.