NPC using an expletive?

[zanzibar]

I agree that it is a relatively inoffensive word but I also agree that some of the posts were out of line, Eublepharis' in particular. And what did he mean "gets in position", sounds obscene to me. The term does have unfortunate connotations and would be easily changed. Is it not better to err on the side of angels?

I was thinking more about your post, actually.

[Under the moon]

For crying out loud. Learn to use the chat filter and leave the rest of us alone. PS has a build in V-chip.
 
PS -> Data -> Options -> Chat

           <replace bad="bugger" good="whiney little sissy" />

Now do that with every single word you can think of that might be offensive in any corner of the Earth, and maybe Mars as well.

Ingame: Options -> Chat -> incoming filter ON.

So it works.

[Malfini]

From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:

  Bugger \Bug"ger\, n. [F. bougre, fr. LL. Bulgarus, a Bulgarian,
     and also a heretic; because the inhabitants of Bulgaria were
     infected with heresy. Those guilty of the crime of buggery
     were called heretics, because in the eyes of their
     adversaries there was nothing more heinous than heresy, and
     it was therefore thought that the origin of such a vice could
     only be owing to heretics.]
     1. One guilty of buggery or unnatural vice; a sodomite.
 
     2. A wretch; -- sometimes used humorously or in playful
        disparagement. [Low]

From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:

  bugger
       n : someone who engages in anal copulation (especially a male
           who engages in anal copulation with another male) [syn: {sodomite},
            {sodomist}, {sod}]
       v : practice anal sex upon [syn: {sodomize}, {sodomise}]

Alright, so if we can call each other "buggers" in PlaneShift can we also call people "sodomites" since that is a synonym? I think the problem here is that some of you have no idea what "bugger" means and you just figured it meant "someone who bugs people". Karyuu as far the person that was banned for a week he said something like "thou fu***est in thee ar*est". He may have done something before that but that is all I witnessed.

[Karyuu]

I feel like you are attempting, unsuccessfully, to make a big deal out of nothing. Bugger has several definitions. The NPC in question is not using it in place of "sodomites," therefore that is the wrong synonym and used with the wrong intention. I would advise massive doses of chill pills and a heavy use of your client-side filter

[Phinehas]

I have lots of friends who use the word "bugger" and trust me, not a single one of them means it in that sense, Malfini. You really should calm down on this.

[Malfini]

I feel like you are attempting, unsuccessfully, to make a big deal out of nothing. Bugger has several definitions. The NPC in question is not using it in place of "sodomites," therefore that is the wrong synonym and used with the wrong intention. I would advise massive doses of chill pills and a heavy use of your client-side filter

I am not attempting "to make a big deal out of nothing". I was bringing something to peoples attention, but apparently few care or understand.

[Under the moon]

Hmmm. A thought has occurred to me. Does the filter filter NPC words?

*edit* someone replace Bugger with cheese and get back to me.

[Coneitic]

lol what a bunch of "buggers" picking this word apart.. get over it.. grow up! you can turn on simpsons and hear bugger... if the word offends you, do like UTM and change it.. stop harassing the devs!!! they give you a great free game!!!!!!!! grrrr you people, i hope your american because i would hate to see foriegners being so darn sensitive.

[zanzibar]

Alright, so if we can call each other "buggers" in PlaneShift can we also call people "sodomites" since that is a synonym?

Sodomite is not a synonym of bugger unless you're taken it upon yourself to be obnoxiously silly.

[Malfini]

Sodomite is not a synonym of bugger unless you're taken it upon yourself to be obnoxiously silly.

Several dictionaries I have looked at seem to say otherwise Zanzibar.

[miadon]

bug‧ger1  /ˈbʌgər, ˈbʊg-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[buhg-er, boog-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1.   Informal. a fellow or lad (used affectionately or abusively): a cute little bugger.
2.   Informal. any object or thing.
3.   Often Vulgar. a sodomite.
4.   Chiefly British Slang.
a.   a despicable or contemptible person, esp. a man.
b.   an annoying or troublesome thing, situation, etc.
–verb (used with object)
5.   Often Vulgar. to sodomize.
6.   Slang. damn: Bugger the cost—I want the best.
7.   Chiefly British Slang. to trick, deceive, or take advantage of.
—Verb phrases
8.   bugger up, Chiefly British Slang. to ruin; spoil; botch.
9.   bugger off, Chiefly British Slang. to depart; bug off.


will people complain if people use the word: "sod"?

[Janner]

Bugger
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bugger is an expletive used in vernacular British English, South African English, Australian English, New Zealand English and Sri Lankan English. When used in context it still retains its original meaning, implying sodomy (see buggery).

[Karyuu]

Several sources I have looked at say that "bugger" is also a legitimate informal term, as shown by Miadon :] We can go back and forth - I'm not posting in this thread to change your opinions, Malfini and Janner, but to explain that you are using "bugger" as a very outdated expletive, which has lost any vulgar meaning in the modern world and "gained" several other definitions. Again, the NPC in question is not using it to mean "sodomite," so all your arguments are ultimately, completely moot.

[bilbous]

If you want to have a good laugh have a look at this: toyota ad It is an Australian truck ad. It is also topical.

[Kiraki]

Just to point out something..

bug‧ger1  /ˈbʌgər, ˈbʊg-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[buhg-er, boog-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1.   Informal. a fellow or lad (used affectionately or abusively): a cute little bugger.  This is the context it is used in yes?
2.   Informal. any object or thing.
3.   Often Vulgar. a sodomite. Not always and the only real bad meaning here?  Very outdated use for it though...
4.   Chiefly British Slang.
a.   a despicable or contemptible person, esp. a man.
b.   an annoying or troublesome thing, situation, etc.
–verb (used with object)
5.   Often Vulgar. to sodomize.
6.   Slang. damn: Bugger the cost—I want the best.
7.   Chiefly British Slang. to trick, deceive, or take advantage of.
—Verb phrases
8.   bugger up, Chiefly British Slang. to ruin; spoil; botch.
9.   bugger off, Chiefly British Slang. to depart; bug off.

This is a rather futile argument.  There are many words with more than one meaning if your mind finds the worst in them, then do not assume everyone else will too.  I did not even know it had more meaning than that first line, if any child that reads it and sees more in it than that and if they even know what sodomize means then I think they are informed enough to realize in which context the word is being used in.

*Edit*  Thank you Miadon