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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #135 on: December 01, 2006, 04:28:43 pm »
I personally draw the line at anything racist, homophobic or sexist.
Other than that literally nothing really offends me when it comes to words... someones meaning is a different thing entirely

As for the English/Welsh thing.... Lets just say British from now on :P

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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #136 on: December 01, 2006, 04:35:33 pm »
I personally draw the line at anything racist, homophobic or sexist.
Other than that literally nothing really offends me when it comes to words... someones meaning is a different thing entirely

As for the English/Welsh thing.... Lets just say British from now on :P

 Very confused look on face reading the word Homophobic, then reading the meaning of BUGGER.
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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #137 on: December 01, 2006, 04:41:09 pm »
ERM he is Welsh I believe, but no matter, the point I am trying to make is if someone is offended it should be removed, after all that seams to be a GM stance on names in game, ALSO were do YOU draw the line, with bad words?

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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #138 on: December 01, 2006, 04:45:16 pm »
ERM he is Welsh I believe, but no matter, the point I am trying to make is if someone is offended it should be removed, after all that seams to be a GM stance on names in game, ALSO were do YOU draw the line, with bad words?

I am offended by the color of blue. Remove the dungeons!

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We are talking bad words here
 get with the jist of the post or do not bother making a fool of yourself.
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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #139 on: December 01, 2006, 04:49:22 pm »
I think everyone should read all 10 pages before posting in this thread. If they don't they will probably just ask or say things that have already been said. Some people also seem to post completely irrelevant things in this thread..
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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #140 on: December 01, 2006, 05:21:20 pm »
I personally draw the line at anything racist, homophobic or sexist.
Other than that literally nothing really offends me when it comes to words... someones meaning is a different thing entirely

As for the English/Welsh thing.... Lets just say British from now on :P



Bugger, when refering to a sodomite, is a homophobic slur.

However, it is NOT refering to a sodomite in the context it is found in when spoken by the NPC.
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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #141 on: December 01, 2006, 05:39:15 pm »
The origin of the word is an ethnic slur as well. I am not sure we have any Bulgarians around to be offended though.

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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #142 on: December 01, 2006, 05:56:16 pm »
(I'm not on the Settings team, Garile, and as such it's not my job to write quest dialogs or check them for approval :} Frankly having our team check every single word just in case somewhere in the world there are people considering it offensive would be a big waste of time - "bugger" was used completely innocently, and validly; it has several definitions. That people choose to see it as vulgar is not our aim, and not our fault. "Get with the times" comes to mind :P)

I do hope you did read my entire post Karyuu becuase as I said I tottally agree that bugger is in my opinion an innocent enough word. Innocent enough to validate a rude soldier to say it anyhow. However eventhough that being the case you are here in an official capacity and it's an honest request. Thats what I ment with that perhaps your first reply could have been more officially tinted and researched so not to give Malfini the idea its simply ignored.
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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #143 on: December 01, 2006, 06:50:03 pm »
(I'm not on the Settings team, Garile, and as such it's not my job to write quest dialogs or check them for approval :} Frankly having our team check every single word just in case somewhere in the world there are people considering it offensive would be a big waste of time - "bugger" was used completely innocently, and validly; it has several definitions. That people choose to see it as vulgar is not our aim, and not our fault. "Get with the times" comes to mind :P)

Looks like Xordan will be trying to get it changed to appease those with sensitive eyes and ears, so people can relax now. However, don't report players who choose to call you a "bugger" with innocent intentions. That would be a serious waste of GM time and would make me very angry at you :) kthx.

 Higlited in red, AS a 50 year old who has travelled to most parts of the world, and interacted with people from all parts of the world, find it very annoying that a 19 year old should tell me to get with the times, this shows a complete disregard for all my years of experience, and shows that you do not have any real experience of dealing with people in the flesh so to speck.

Diferont people from different parts of the world think different, so do not judge them by your meagre little experience, get out there and see how different they are to you, before you start telling them how to behave.

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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #144 on: December 01, 2006, 06:53:13 pm »
It is so nice to see how PS teaches us morals and etiquette, isn't it?

*goes over to his neighbor and stabs him in the face for some assumed insult, but talks politely the entire time*

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PS -> Data -> Options -> Chat

           <replace bad="bugger" good="whiney little sissy" />

Now do that with every single word you can think of that might be offensive in any corner of the Earth, and maybe Mars as well.

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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #145 on: December 01, 2006, 07:01:35 pm »
I am so very sad that I didn't see this post at the beginning.  This in and of itself is pure gold:

Second, don't know about you, but will not even let my son [18) use that word or any other word, that could mean a swear word

Just a question Janner, because I'm a bit curious...do you allow the use of such words as "dang" instead of "damn".  Or anything like "shoot", etc. etc.?  Or are you one of those people which context means nothing to?  My roommate is a shining example of what happens to suppressed children, I don't think he's been sober once this week.

Words are words.
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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #146 on: December 01, 2006, 07:06:19 pm »
Janner don't be so disrespectfull.

Why is your opinion suddenly worth more then anyone elses?
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do not judge them by your merger little experience, get out there and see how different they are to you, before you start telling them how to behave.

What are you thinking here? That what you are doing isn't exactly what you are so ticked of about but then worse?? You are telling people not to even speak their opinion becuase they disagree with you. Becuase they feel it is outdated and you do not they don't have the right to speak their minds anymore?

Shame on you Janner.
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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #147 on: December 01, 2006, 07:10:49 pm »
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AS a 50 year old who has travelled to most parts of the world, and interacted with people from all parts of the world, find it very annoying that a 15 year old should tell me to get with the times

I think that may be the entire reason why they say get with the times, the world changes, if you dont you end up behind the times.

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Bugger, when refering to a sodomite, is a homophobic slur.

How so? If you were to say 'People who bugger repulse me' then you have a homophobic slur.
If you were to use the word in isolation then it doesnt have any negative conotations.

I have friends who have no issues with being refered to as fags, the same way I have no issues being refered to as straight, I dont believe either have negative conotations when used in isolation.

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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #148 on: December 01, 2006, 07:17:56 pm »
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C. Are you trying to claim that there is something wrong with sodomy.

Your kidding right? O.o I hope so .......

@Everyone: Why do you people have to constantly point out that the word "bugger" is ok to those who are offended by it. You telling them what it means to you won't change how they feel about it if it meant something bad to them. If someone is offended by a word don't argue with them that they shouldn't be .... just respect it. Good grief.
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Re: NPC using an expletive?
« Reply #149 on: December 01, 2006, 07:21:24 pm »
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Your kidding right? O.o I hope so .......

No. I was refering to the Biblical usage of the word and not beastiality.
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