Are Children Mature Enough to RP? Why worry about "for all family"?

[Karyuu]

This is nowhere near being off-topic enough for a lock. Don't worry about such things - mods are around to take care of it if it'll be needed. For now just enjoy the discussion taking place.

Concerning making PS attractive to roleplayers, that's really already our aim. It may not be apparent to everyone because we're still building the basic foundation for a lot of our features, but Talad has started PlaneShift to make it a deep world, where roleplay dominates. People who do not care about roleplay generally feel that they are not too welcome here when they do not make many friends, and leave.

[bilbous]

Ok  I didn't know ^w Helen Gurley Brown (Cosmopolitan), ^w Gloria Steinem (Ms. Magazine), Oprah (O), and Martha Stewart (Living) were men. Cosmopolitan started out as a family magazine in the 1800's but it became what is is when Ms. Brown took over as editor in chief.  Strictly speaking "O" and "Living" don't have women on the cover but they do have a woman on the cover, Oprah and Martha Stewart respectively. All four of these magazines are likely to have more pictures of women than men too.

Women are more sociable than men and are far more likely to really look at their friends and give them tips on what would make them look better. It may just be socialization but it is a fact that women get looked at far more than men. Now you can say that there is far more coverage of mens sports but I would suggest that the action is more significant than the gender. In other words it is men on the field/ice/court but the point is not looking to appreciate the beauty of the players it is the raw power of the struggle that is the point. Besides that in all the coverage there is always, I repeat, always shots of pretty women be they cheerleaders, broadcasters or just in the crowd. Face it, women are more attractive than men and that is how nature has it planned.

Besides Kran are already naked and are more masculine then feminine in appearance. They may not have gender but their form is that of a "ken doll" and not a "barbie"

[Kalika]

...well i think men are more yummies to look at it... ahahaha its really just a persons preference, but men are more visully sexual then women so theyre more likely to get more of a male audience if they have scandalous pictures or what not..


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[zanzibar]

Before, you said:

The answer to Z's question is that obviously more people can appreciate the female form than can the male.

Now, you're saying:

It may just be socialization but it is a fact that women get looked at far more than men

The latter does not prove the former, nor do they necessarily go hand in hand.

[bilbous]

Before, you said:

The answer to Z's question is that obviously more people can appreciate the female form than can the male.

Now, you're saying:

It may just be socialization but it is a fact that women get looked at far more than men

The latter does not prove the former, nor do they necessarily go hand in hand.

The latter is a possible explaination of the former, nothing more as is evidenced by the word 'may'. If that is your only objection can I assume you concede the rest of my points? Do I have an obligation to prove anything to you? I thought this was a discussion and not a debate.

[zanzibar]

The latter could be a symptom of the former, but not necessarily.  Besides, it's more likely something like this:

In our culture, women are encouraged to change the way they look in order to meet social expectations and to attract males.  At the same time, males are expected or allowed to be interested in sex more publically than women.  Add the two together, and you end up with a society where the female body - a commercialized version of the female body, anyway - is given more attention than its male counterpart.

[bilbous]

I don't know about you but I don't go shopping with my friends and ask them whether clothes look good on me but I'm pretty sure that women do. I also don't see some guy wearing something at a party and tell them how nice it is and ask where they got it. Well not usually anyway. Women do that too.

Oh and your second paragraph -- pretty much is what I meant by socialization.

I think we are somewhat in agreement.

[zanzibar]

I don't know about you but I don't go shopping with my friends and ask them whether clothes look good on me but I'm pretty sure that women do. I also don't see some guy wearing something at a party and tell them how nice it is and ask where they got it. Well not usually anyway. Women do that too.

Oh and your second paragraph -- pretty much is what I meant by socialization.

I think we are somewhat in agreement.

You're kinda just proving me right here man.  And no, we don't agree.

[bilbous]

Perhaps someone could explain the difference to me. As far as I can see you said the same thing as me in different words unless maybe you think I put the cart before the horse...I'm going to bed.

[zanzibar]

Perhaps someone could explain the difference to me. As far as I can see you said the same thing as me in different words unless maybe you think I put the cart before the horse...I'm going to bed.

Our society is more critical of the female body, but this is not because the female body is inherently more beautiful than the male body.  I think that simple economics is a big factor, and not beauty.

Women are exposed to images of the "ideal" (commercial) female form because a multi-billion dollar industry has formed around manufacturing needs and insecurities among that particular target market and then selling that market a solution that requires monetary expenditures.  You sell the ideal.  You create the need.  You sell the idea of the solution to the problem, and then you provide the solution for money.  It isn't about inherent beauty.  If anything, it's about the opposite.

Personally, I find women more attractive than men.  But I understand that the difference isn't inherent to the forms - it's to do with my own personal orientation and perhaps even socialization.  What I do know however is that the fact that women are looked are more often is not necessarily indicitive of women being inherently more beautiful.  There are other and IMO more important factors.

[Helm]

You should see what the fashion industry is finally trying to do to men... XD DOWN WITH MAKEUP! DOWN WITH HIGH HEALS! Though I do like a little make up on men too... 

[Kalika]

ahaha seriously think about the metrosexuals...the straight men that you could honestly swear are gay...mr g q and all that...fabulosu hair and tight ironed clothes ...

[Idoru]

I would totally wear make up (and have when drunk (gothic)) if it wasnt for the fear of being beaten senseless by chavs

Men should be able to wear make up, tight clothes and even dresses IMO without fear of having the crap kicked out of them.

[Parallo]

I hate chavs. I really, really do. Nothing worse. They are the scum of the earth and the worst thing is they are what this generation will be remembered for. The 60s had hippies, we have chavs.

[Eublepharis]

I would totally wear make up (and have when drunk (gothic)) if it wasnt for the fear of being beaten senseless by chavs

Men should be able to wear make up, tight clothes and even dresses IMO without fear of having the crap kicked out of them.

I knew I should go visit the UK for some reason.  Now i know why, the women there must be disgusted with the men dressing and acting like them (or some just "wanting to"), and want the real thing.