Are Children Mature Enough to RP? Why worry about "for all family"?

[LARAGORN]

It's time someone heard from an 11 year old's point of view. First of all, I have no idea how a drug dealer ended up in a medieval world. Second, thieves are a part of life. Ya hear it on the news, ya hear it from other people. Third of all, my parents think I'm responsible to play this game by myself(I'v been playing a teen rated game since I was 3) Now take Rayman for instance, Rayman 3 to be precise. In Rayman 3 theres guns, violence, weapons, Globox gets drunk on prune juice, and ofcourse, more guns. And it's also rated E. I'v played most of the games in the B&W series, and my friend (Also 11) plays Fable on her Xbox. And you won't belive what some people say at school...... My point is that 11 year olds play alot of things that have ALOT of violence...... Among other things........

I think it is agreed there are far worse games out there when it comes to the settings stand point. PS is very mild comparitivly,but from an RP stand point, it can be only limited by the imagination.

With your experience Gyerfry, how far do you take your Role Playing? how violent do you let situations get? and how do you relate game violence to real life violence?  I only ask because of your 7 years experience in somewhat violent games, and am curious on how you precieve things.

[Eublepharis]

It's time someone heard from an 11 year old's point of view. First of all, I have no idea how a drug dealer ended up in a medieval world. Second, thieves are a part of life. Ya hear it on the news, ya hear it from other people. Third of all, my parents think I'm responsible to play this game by myself(I'v been playing a teen rated game since I was 3) Now take Rayman for instance, Rayman 3 to be precise. In Rayman 3 theres guns, violence, weapons, Globox gets drunk on prune juice, and ofcourse, more guns. And it's also rated E. I'v played most of the games in the B&W series, and my friend (Also 11) plays Fable on her Xbox. And you won't belive what some people say at school...... My point is that 11 year olds play alot of things that have ALOT of violence...... Among other things........

So your parents don't do a good job raising you, your school sucks, and your friend has some equally uncaring parents...

Your post only proves your parents should spend more time on your education and less money getting you the newest violent, drug crazed, with the best graphics games on the market.

Or maybe it proves they should started with a dog first, then moved on to a baby... 

[LARAGORN]

It's time someone heard from an 11 year old's point of view. First of all, I have no idea how a drug dealer ended up in a medieval world. Second, thieves are a part of life. Ya hear it on the news, ya hear it from other people. Third of all, my parents think I'm responsible to play this game by myself(I'v been playing a teen rated game since I was 3) Now take Rayman for instance, Rayman 3 to be precise. In Rayman 3 theres guns, violence, weapons, Globox gets drunk on prune juice, and ofcourse, more guns. And it's also rated E. I'v played most of the games in the B&W series, and my friend (Also 11) plays Fable on her Xbox. And you won't belive what some people say at school...... My point is that 11 year olds play alot of things that have ALOT of violence...... Among other things........

So your parents don't do a good job raising you, your school sucks, and your friend has some equally uncaring parents...

Your post only proves your parents should spend more time on your education and less money getting you the newest violent, drug crazed, with the best graphics games on the market.

Or maybe it proves they should started with a dog first, then moved on to a baby... 

Thats a very fast judgement, that is why I asked a few questions. Every situation is different, you cannot make an informed observation without asking questions.

[Kerol]

So your parents don't do a good job raising you, your school sucks, and your friend has some equally uncaring parents...
Your post only proves your parents should spend more time on your education and less money getting you the newest violent, drug crazed, with the best graphics games on the market.
Or maybe it proves they should started with a dog first, then moved on to a baby...

And your post only proves that you are preopiniated and that your parents didn't teach you how to behave in public.
Was it necessary to flame a kid?

PS: Even if it was not a kid I find this behaviour rather asocial.

PPS:
Thanks Gyerfry for your post. I think it takes some courage to make such a post and shows that you are pretty mature - probably more mature than some people anticipate 11 year olds. Don't let yourself discourage from replies like these.
Also I think your post is precious in the discussion as a whole as you are one of those who are actually affected by the outcome. Too often grown-ups make decisions or form opinions about younger ones without actually gathering information only because they think "I was young once too, I know all about it" leaving out the fact that times change.

[Eublepharis]

And your post only proves that you are preopiniated and that your parents didn't teach you how to behave in public.
...

Yes, you are right Kerol, when I was 3, my parents let me play Teen (13 or older) rated games with a lot of violence and drugs in them, my school sucked, and my friend's parents were equally clueless...

Since I am this way maybe I should apply for a Game Master + Dev position, could you give me a reference?   

[Cyl]

And your post only proves that you are preopiniated and that your parents didn't teach you how to behave in public.
...

Yes, you are right Kerol, when I was 3, my parents let me play Teen (13 or older) rated games with a lot of violence and drugs in them, my school sucked, and my friend's parents were equally clueless...

Since I am this way maybe I should apply for a Game Master + Dev position, could you give me a reference?   

It would be due time to stop your pityful ad hominem attacks.

Sometimes I wonder whether people think children can be protected from violence by being blindfolded...

[Kerol]

Here is the reference, feel free to apply
But regretfully it won't be enough to have these experiences to get a position, although it is a good start.
Some knowledge in the field of expertise you apply for however is needed too :]

And I agree with Cyl. Will refrain from making more off-topic posts from here.

[Xordan]

It's time someone heard from an 11 year old's point of view. First of all, I have no idea how a drug dealer ended up in a medieval world. Second, thieves are a part of life. Ya hear it on the news, ya hear it from other people. Third of all, my parents think I'm responsible to play this game by myself(I'v been playing a teen rated game since I was 3) Now take Rayman for instance, Rayman 3 to be precise. In Rayman 3 theres guns, violence, weapons, Globox gets drunk on prune juice, and ofcourse, more guns. And it's also rated E. I'v played most of the games in the B&W series, and my friend (Also 11) plays Fable on her Xbox. And you won't belive what some people say at school...... My point is that 11 year olds play alot of things that have ALOT of violence...... Among other things........

So your parents don't do a good job raising you, your school sucks, and your friend has some equally uncaring parents...

Your post only proves your parents should spend more time on your education and less money getting you the newest violent, drug crazed, with the best graphics games on the market.

Or maybe it proves they should started with a dog first, then moved on to a baby... 

My parents were pretty much the same (in letting me play what I liked pretty much)... and I ended up in the 9th best university (arguable of course) in the world... so your post is crap. Game usage doesn't reflect much on educational ability, nor on how well your parents bring you up.

[Akaye]

So your parents don't do a good job raising you, your school sucks, and your friend has some equally uncaring parents...

Your post only proves your parents should spend more time on your education and less money getting you the newest violent, drug crazed, with the best graphics games on the market.

Or maybe it proves they should started with a dog first, then moved on to a baby... 

Wow, I don't know if that was meant to be insulting .... especially with the dog baby statement. From what I have read it shows you have little to no experience with children though. You also don't seem to have a clue on what you are talking about. Your statement is very incorrect and disappointing.

Just because a parent lets their child play games with volence, and bloodshed doesn't mean the parents don't care and aren't supporting a college fund for their children. If your child shows that they can be responsible both with their attitude and actions then why should they be restricted with video games? Sure education is important but that has very little to do with video games.

My daughter has every console that nintendo ever made. She plays games that are made for kids way older than her and she enjoys them.  Guess what? I love her and I care what she is up to. So there goes your theory out the door. She is five and above average in her class.  She is responsible. She plays her video games but this doesn't affect her school work or her college budget one bit. To top it off, I never had a dog first to have a trial run. Yes thats right! I did it all without having a dog first. Imagine that!   

Since I am this way maybe I should apply for a Game Master + Dev position, could you give me a reference?   

Now this is definitly a joke right? With the attitude you just showed all these lovely people on the forums you want a Gm/Dev position? No I think you had better check with your parents first. It takes up alot of time and your parents may stop caring if you take this position according to you. Then you will never get into college. O.o Better not apply.

[Gyerfry Stoemsaber]

It's time someone heard from an 11 year old's point of view. First of all, I have no idea how a drug dealer ended up in a medieval world. Second, thieves are a part of life. Ya hear it on the news, ya hear it from other people. Third of all, my parents think I'm responsible to play this game by myself(I'v been playing a teen rated game since I was 3) Now take Rayman for instance, Rayman 3 to be precise. In Rayman 3 theres guns, violence, weapons, Globox gets drunk on prune juice, and ofcourse, more guns. And it's also rated E. I'v played most of the games in the B&W series, and my friend (Also 11) plays Fable on her Xbox. And you won't belive what some people say at school...... My point is that 11 year olds play alot of things that have ALOT of violence...... Among other things........

I think it is agreed there are far worse games out there when it comes to the settings stand point. PS is very mild comparitivly,but from an RP stand point, it can be only limited by the imagination.

With your experience Gyerfry, how far do you take your Role Playing? how violent do you let situations get? and how do you relate game violence to real life violence?  I only ask because of your 7 years experience in somewhat violent games, and am curious on how you precieve things.

 Lol, I RP a 20 year old, and I'm not really doing a bad job if I say so myself. You'll have to ask Xillix though . And I haven't seen too much violence. I'v seen a war between the thieves and the vespers, didn't get to stay long because I had to go. As for fighting monsters, what I see is "swing weapon around, put hand of cheast, monster hits you, monster dies(or you die)" Not much violence, I don't think it has much of an effect on our young minds. In real life vilence, well in PS it's WAY quieter then IRL. I'v had roleply experience before Planeshift, by playing Furcadia. I haven't murdered anyone, nor have I seen anything bad (Other then the Jaenious thing, lol, I got buried under rocks then they were testing the traps.)

 In reply to that rude reply, you are thick, aren't you? How steriotypical. I'm going on A's and B's at school, thank you very much.

PS: One of the computer games I play is called Age of Empires 2, teaches alot about history, like Atilla the hun, Gahngis Kahn, and Joan of Arc.

[LARAGORN]

Thanks for your reply Gyerfry, I wish some other folks around here would be as mature when posting.
You express yourself very well, and seem to have a good grasp of reality. Such is not the case for all I am afraid, I have seen some very disturbing actions from people your age with a direct coralation to vidio games.

Its good to have people like you in this comunity, I hope to see you in-game sometime.
Laragorn

[Gyerfry Stoemsaber]

Thank you Lar, on an off opic note, is there any way I can do some volenteer work for PS without becoming a dev (I'm too young for that)? I'm looking to be in the settings r 2D art department.

[Kerol]

is there any way I can do some volenteer work for PS without becoming a dev (I'm too young for that)? I'm looking to be in the settings r 2D art department.

First of all you should get to know PS very well, learn about the settings (here, if you haven't read through all yet ) and get to know as many people as possible (players, GMs, devs, etc).
I say this as a general statement because I see too many prospects with too little knowledge, if this isn't apply to you, don't feel offended.
You can become a contributor and contribute things you made. Best way to get things in this way is by giving the content to an actual dev.
If you want to know more about it, you can pm me or another dev or come on IRC in the channel #planeshift-prospects (althoug you don't want to be prospect).

You also can join a guild and try to work with your guildmates on different stuffs like stories or textures etc. if you haven't already.

Everyone with the skill, dedication and maturity is welcome to contribute

PS: This wasn't offtopic 

[Gyerfry Stoemsaber]

Lol, how do you acually get into the IRC channel? I tried once, it asked me for a username and password, I'm like, "Wha...?"

[Kerol]

Enough  -ness!
I'll tell you via pm