The Neocon Movement in America

[zanzibar]

I have a lot of respect for opinions, especially minority opinions.  I'm just not sure that this discussion belongs on this forum.

[neko kyouran]

In case we forgot:

Note: Posts of a Political, Religious, or Sexual Nature
Such posts are considered trolling, as they incite personal attacks and flaming, and the latter may be inappropriate for all ages. Do not make them. There are many places on the Internet that welcome such discussions; the PlaneShift forums are not one of those places.

From: http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23101.0

[lordraleigh]

In case we forgot:

Note: Posts of a Political, Religious, or Sexual Nature
Such posts are considered trolling, as they incite personal attacks and flaming, and the latter may be inappropriate for all ages. Do not make them. There are many places on the Internet that welcome such discussions; the PlaneShift forums are not one of those places.

From: http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23101.0

"As long as I don't write about the government, religion, politics, and other institutions, I am free to print anything." -- Pierre Beaumarchais (French comedy writer)

This is my vision on such kind of political part of this rule... Why not just ban trolls?

There are civilized people(That tries to put rational arguments)... and flamers(Offensive language among other examples)... One should not censor topics because of that.

Lets censor everything that may incite a flame war... Including discussions about games, about PS current state(ones may defend PS dev ideas, others may not)... Including everything on this forum(and probably on other forums)!

P.S.: If a mod sees necessity of locking this topic... he will do it... otherwise... no one below them has authority to do it.

P.S. 2: I will trash my forum account or at least ignore the "Hydlaa Plaza", if that is the case.

P.S. 3: Censorship of serious matters should be forbidden to avoid flame wars between against and pro censorship trolls...

[Karyuu]

There is no censorship. There is only quality control. There is no "freedom of speech" on a privately owned forum also There are privileges. That said, if a topic becomes a heated argument over politics or religion, it'll be forced to cool down. I think this is okay so far.

[Phinehas]

I have a lot of respect for opinions, especially minority opinions.  I'm just not sure that this discussion belongs on this forum.

* Phinehas grins. I don't. Most people have no clue what they're talking about, and I'm not willing to dedicate the time to search through all the nonsense and sometimes downright stupidity to try and find that granule of truth that just might be lying behind an opinion...

I love this quote from a song by Relient K: "Opinions are immunity to being told we're wrong."

[Datruth]

I have a lot of respect for opinions, especially minority opinions.  I'm just not sure that this discussion belongs on this forum.

* Phinehas grins. I don't. Most people have no clue what they're talking about, and I'm not willing to dedicate the time to search through all the nonsense and sometimes downright stupidity to try and find that granule of truth that just might be lying behind an opinion...

I love this quote from a song by Relient K: "Opinions are immunity to being told we're wrong."

Absolute truths are hard to come by
But i know what you mean.

Back on topic though, that 14 part video is really good, i've watched a little of it but i'm hoping to finish it soon.
Anyone else watched those vids, it's really long, but well worth the weight.

Oh and if you could make any law that would be enforced till the Earth was destroyed lol, what would it be?

Mine would be: Everyone must have access to water and food, within a 1 mile range of their home.
Yes i'm a bit socialistic, and i would tax the rich a bit to feed the poor, i mean every modern age government does nowadays, without that, there would be too many revolts, too much starvation.

~~Datruth

[lordraleigh]

Oh and if you could make any law that would be enforced till the Earth was destroyed lol, what would it be?

It is forbidden to rule over others, to opress the weak and to exploit the fools(Freedom and dignity, always).

P.S.: Forcing others to follow a religion or idea is included on this law

I am very liberal, because I believe freedom is the most important right that must be defended at all costs

And because I believe governments are at best a "Temporarily necessary evil"

[Datruth]

Oh and if you could make any law that would be enforced till the Earth was destroyed lol, what would it be?

It is forbidden to rule over others, to opress the weak and to exploit the fools(Freedom and dignity, always).

P.S.: Forcing others to follow a religion or idea is included on this law

I am very liberal, because I believe freedom is the most important right that must be defended at all costs

And because I believe governments are at best a "Temporarily necessary evil"

I like how you phrased those two sentances, and i agree with what you said.

Government's first and foremost duty is to protect the people and their rights, making them a necessary evil.

Great post Lordraleigh 

~~Datruth