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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2006, 12:07:43 am »
I am awed by the fact that there are people out there who claim to be helpfull people.

Some of them even have avatars below their names, so they are not hard to find,  ;).

YET NONE OF THEM have taken the initiative to help out here and figure out how much a sack can hold, i've received no official answer, and no word on the sack bug.

I've not seen anyone drop thier inventory in 2 weeks now, which is good , but nevertheless, i do not want this to happen to me, and ruin my day.

Alot of us have VERY expensive items, and picking them all up quickly would not be a possibility, if people were around, as i have seen, who take them and run off.

So please, could someone, find out how much a sack can hold, it's maximum weight, so that i will not risk losing my items, and that i can still hold a good amount in them.

IF you do not know, proceed to go to someone who does.

These attempts at help are not directed at anyone from the General Public, because i know alot of you have NO way of finding out.
These pleas are mainly to the Devolpement Team, and even the GM's who have the ability to SPEAK with the Developement team and ask them.
I'm going on IRC now, will try and find an answer there ,if i do i'll be sure to tell everyone.

Wish me good luck :sorcerer:

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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2006, 12:28:10 am »
I am awed by the fact that there are people out there who claim to be helpfull people.

Some of them even have avatars below their names, so they are not hard to find,  ;).

Does anyone else find that very rude..? Is there any developer who "claims" to be helpful but in reality isn't? What are you trying to say? If you're hoping to get people to help you, maybe not trying to tarnish them like this may be a good idea :thumbdown:

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YET NONE OF THEM have taken the initiative to help out here and figure out how much a sack can hold, i've received no official answer, and no word on the sack bug.

Have you ever visited the World of Warcraft forums? We are very lucky to have the sort of responsive development team that we do.

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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2006, 01:02:41 am »
actually he is quite right, if after 2 full pages we have no answer for such simple one would think question, than smethig is wrong. What all those poeple were writing about? ;P Probably me included, can't remember.
I doubt he meant to diregard any of devs. He is just asking a simple question.

And don't get so impressed how these forums may be much better than WoW forums. If their forums sux so much and PS forums are better, yet still not good enough, this means that these boards sux, only less xD. The fact we are doing well already, doesn't mean we can't get better.

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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2006, 01:07:45 am »
What exactly would be "good enough"? A wave of your hand and a dev ready to answer your every question?  ::) Anyway, I've been on IRC since before he made that post, and he has yet to show up, as he "claimed" he would  ;) Maybe (could it be that...?) something else took his attention away from the question, and perhaps he's not the only one to have had this happen?

I'm sorry, I found it rude and I replied. Your mileage may obviously vary.

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« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2006, 02:11:22 am »
I thought it was rude too and that such game mechanics are NOT routinely posted on the forum. Is this question really any different than asking how many hit points a rogue has or what levels does he have in his skills? Do you really think such things would be casually revealed? You are a tester, if you want to know the answer test it for yourself. Give your valuables to a trusted holder and start filling sacks with dreck.

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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2006, 02:16:15 am »
DAtruth-----try pming a dev or wahtever...that way its direct contact. they prolly have lives outside of ps and cant be bothered to read every post made.

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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2006, 02:27:56 am »
You're supposed to find these things out yourselves. If you spent the time you spent posting actually testing it then you'd know already.

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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2006, 02:40:24 am »
Hiyeahs.

First, I found your comments a bit harsh and rude. (Datruth)  I've noticed you tend to take this sort of tone in your posts quite often.  A little observation I've made about people:  if they feel they aren't being treated with respect, they'll ignore you and won't even give you the time of day back.

Now, on to the subject at hand.  First off, I have never used a sack in game.  Never even bought one. None of my characters have a reason for one.  So these are just going to be my gueses here.  From the simplest standpoint, I think the sack concept is just a way to have more inventory space.  That being, the total amount you can hold in sacks is limited by the total amount you can hold as stated in the main inventory window.  Or I could be completely wrong.  Truth is I don't know, and I don't have the time to test it.  But guess what?  Every one in PS is a tester first, meaning, they are free to test things such as this to thier hearts content.  The source code is all thier.  The only limiting area is database access.  So if the total amount a sack can hold is database related rather than source code related, well, then you'd just have to go in game, and start testing various possibilities and noting the results.  If a dev has the time to come to the forums and explain, they will.  Else, take the initiative and find out for yourself.  Thanks.

(note about the use of "you".  The first paragraph was geared toward it being used to talk to datruth specifically, while the second paragrph, it was used as a more general "all" type.)

Edit, looks like Xordan came in while I was posting. Umm, what he said.

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« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2006, 02:50:50 am »
We are ALL testing this game, Datruth. If there is something that you cannot find the answer for then get together with other players and test it. Test it well, and bring the results to the forum. You will earn more respect than just making a post trying to get a rise out of the team as you did.

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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2006, 06:38:01 am »
I thought I had somewhat replied cryptically....
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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2006, 06:53:51 am »
* Kalika points up

* AryHann thinks in an ideal RPG world

When I have a backpack and I try to squeeze in stuff in that, I can see approximately when it is full, but I can't see if it can hold such weight or how many objects exactly it is going to carry (also, it depends from object to object).
Too many details about the sack imho make the knowledge a bit too farfetched (imho, I would underline) and too mechanic.

However, I guess an approximation about the weight could be done through TEXT:
e.g. The sack looks extremely full and heavy, I wouldn't add any more objects
And such.

So, more verbosity but on text oriented and not exact numbers

true story

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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2006, 10:14:58 am »
You're supposed to find these things out yourselves. If you spent the time you spent posting actually testing it then you'd know already.

Your post was the simplest form of what the others were after my post.

Basically, get off your lazy ass and test it lol ;)
Guess what guys.... I did... before i even made this thread i used several different weapons, put them in, and noted what the Sack said.

All i have currently is "x"/10

This is what i know, as i've already writen...

X /=/(is not) The weight of the Weapons, Meaning if I had a 2 Weapons, each weighing five, putting them both in, Doesn't make the sack say 10/10

X /=/ (is not) The amount of weapons, I put in 4 weapons, yet went over my /10 limit, where if it were number of items, it would be at 4/10.

SOOOOOOOO MR. Xordan, All knowning, Please describe how i may procure the information i need.
Please tell me what other tests i can do?
And Explain to me where else i can get the info.


Sorry about the rude tone, My actual tone was Annoyance, but it didn't show up in the text.

Basically i was annoyed about not getting an answer, i've been waiting about a week now(6 days) but theres been no answer.
I also doubt Xordan himself knows the answer, if he did it would probably be here by now.

Again, i'll tone down the anger and annoyance factor, But i've done all the testing i can do, the only people who can help me at this point are the devs.

There is no way for me personally to acquire the info, and giving me that info would not be wrong.

Anyone, possibly bilbous, who says telling me how much a sack can hold, so that i can avoid losing my whole inventory, IS wrong, should re think his position, i find that a slippery slope with very little logic.

Oh and thank you for your polite post neko, i've tried to find the info myself, but sadly i can't, i hope you understand. :(

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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2006, 09:47:46 pm »
well try using a sack adn find out, and Aryhann was the firs tpost after your original post and shes a dev so i think that what she gave would be te closest answer youre gonna get from a dev
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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2006, 10:16:55 pm »
Why on earth are you so annoyed anyway? Its items in a game in which you are a tester and you can't work it out... So you get annoyed at the devs? Thats a tad strange and illogical.
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Re: Sack questions
« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2006, 05:46:51 am »
Why on earth are you so annoyed anyway? Its items in a game in which you are a tester and you can't work it out... So you get annoyed at the devs? Thats a tad strange and illogical.

Lol, Yea it's really strange and illogical to get annoyed at people not answering your questions.

No one has ever done that, i mean it's totally strange. ;)

Parallo, try reading the thread before making faulty assumptions.

Let's say it together now ;D, "reading is good".

As for kalika, I've done all i can do :(, you can only do so much when you have so very little to work with.

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