GM events

[Janner]

 First off would like to say I like participating in GM events.
 
 But they are completely out of character, why? Games Masters are meant to police the game, gently remind players they are doing wrong, and put them on the straight and narrow path.

 There is more than enough players in game doing there role-play, that all can participate in.

 Lets take a standard GM event. spontaneous happening, rarely, hours of standing around waiting, instructions in plane chat [OOC], tele-porting missing or late players [OOC], Pets running around and jumping [OOC], normal in game pets do not do this.[at moment] monsters are the same moving freely, [OOC], last but not least, special prizes, if they cant be obtained in game [OOC],

[Rayken]

GM events are not OOC if done correctly.  We are meant to be moderators, yes, but we are also meant to encourage RP by running events.  Your depiction of the "standard GM event" is far from ideal.  It  may be more realistic at this point then my ideal, but you need to be patient.  We are striving to improve them, and to run events that occur as smoothly as possible.  Often times, spontaneous is more IC than making a big announcement (IE attn players: in 10 minutes a damsel in distress will be kidnapped...).  Your complaints are not unheard, but please bear in mind that the system needs work, and the GM team needs trial-and-error experience.   Your feedback is always appreciated.

[ThomPhoenix]

Why would a pet or monster running around be OOC?
It's normal for pets and monsters to run around.
NPCs who run around on their own isn't activated in-game, yes, but that doesn't make it OOC.

[Karyuu]

Janner, is there anything you don't complain about when it comes to GMs or the dev team?

Games Masters are meant to police the game, gently remind players they are doing wrong, and put them on the straight and narrow path.

This is but one duty of a GM - and every GM team in every game also has an events role.

There is more than enough players in game doing there role-play, that all can participate in.

So do you want to stop GM events entirely? I don't understand the aim of your post.

[...] instructions in plane chat [OOC] [...]

Whenever we have an event, we roleplay it. There's no "And then you go to NPC [name] and right-click to see the..." Yes, there are RP instructions. Players have to know what they need to do, right?

Pets running around and jumping [OOC], normal in game pets do not do this.[at moment]

I am seriously going to laugh at this point. You are upset because we liven up the game?

last but not least, special prizes, if they cant be obtained in game [OOC]

Isn't it great? :]

[miadon]

last but not least, special prizes, if they cant be obtained in game [OOC],

I find that rather IC, in real life people get unique special prizes. Also it adds to the possibility of someone maybe becoming an antique dealer who deals in rare and unusual items.

[Janner]

Janner, is there anything you don't complain about when it comes to GMs or the dev team?

Games Masters are meant to police the game, gently remind players they are doing wrong, and put them on the straight and narrow path.

This is but one duty of a GM - and every GM team in every game also has an events role.

There is more than enough players in game doing there role-play, that all can participate in.

So do you want to stop GM events entirely? I don't understand the aim of your post.

[...] instructions in plane chat [OOC] [...]

Whenever we have an event, we roleplay it. There's no "And then you go to NPC [name] and right-click to see the..." Yes, there are RP instructions. Players have to know what they need to do, right?

Pets running around and jumping [OOC], normal in game pets do not do this.[at moment]

I am seriously going to laugh at this point. You are upset because we liven up the game?

last but not least, special prizes, if they cant be obtained in game [OOC]

Isn't it great? :]

 Guess you mist this bit, First off would like to say I like participating in GM events. second point like you I have a right to point things out, that I think are wrong, third if in game something can't be done yet, it is OOC for a GM to do it in a event, after all you are the ones telling us to stay in carictor, I have no problem with spontaneous events as they on the hole tern out very good fun, and just as important are IC. fourth I personally do not take rewords, I do it for the fun.

Janner, is there anything you don't complain about when it comes to GMs or the dev team? That is a Joke right ? OR  are you saying I cant express my views. Last I new this was a game in its testing, and all points of view could be expressed.

[Karyuu]

if in game something can't be done yet, it is OOC for a GM to do it in a event, after all you are the ones telling us to stay in carictor

How is it OOC, Janner, to see a Yulbar running around Hydlaa? Do you RP that your own pets are standing still all the time, never hunting, never running, never interacting with you? Do you RP that all monsters come from "spawns" and that they appear one after another and never move from their place unless to chase an attacker? Do you RP that everyone looks the same age, or that they run at the same exact speed, or that there are only apples and carrots and bread and pie to be eaten in the world? Does "staying in character" mean to you that you must limit yourself to current game mechanics?

You are weird :]

[Under the moon]

Oddly enough, I find monsters and pets who do not move to be out of character.

GMs need a better toolbox and interface is all, and a better way to keep track of players. A top down RTS (warcraft, starcraft) type of view and control would work well for this, but would need a special client. Selecting and moving Mobs and NPCs would be a snap. Hmmmm.... in fact, something like the Starcraft and Warcraft map editor with the nifty trigger system would be very handy. It takes all of ten minutes to set something up that runs automatically.

[LigH]

Janner... didn't you write noob-support on your flag?

So you must know first handed: Not everyone is able to join easily some of the deep plots the players have running over weeks and months. Many people are not yet used to roleplay as thorough as others already do for years. In my opinion, GM events are a good startup for this kind of beginners, especially because they are short and closed. At least they were for me, not too long ago...

We all know that they rarely work as expected, and need much tweaking and tuning while they progress. They are some hard job for the GM(s) controlling them. Respect these efforts. I doubt you could do it much better.

[Proglin]

* Proglin starts of with a hug for Janner.

Janner, I have to disagree with you my friend. GM-events should be a huge asset to the game as IMOthey should be about every day events, a guy losing his groffel, a thug that stole some trias or items and so on and so forth. In fact, more of them should be done. There's nothing OOC about them I'd say. we just have some powers we can use for events that the heroes of PS, the players do not have cvause they are likely to be abused. These commands add a little something extra to the RP if used right.

So, GM-events are cool and filled with awsomeness, all of us are still rather unexperienced with it though, so in the future they can only get better.

[Tabasco_Lyaph]

The GM events are great, no doubt about that! a good startto get into RP and we realy need that, people can't only level 24/7 it's booring, more RP to the peole! 

[Janner]

Janner... didn't you write noob-support on your flag?

So you must know first handed: Not everyone is able to join easily some of the deep plots the players have running over weeks and months. Many people are not yet used to roleplay as thorough as others already do for years. In my opinion, GM events are a good startup for this kind of beginners, especially because they are short and closed. At least they were for me, not too long ago...

We all know that they rarely work as expected, and need much tweaking and tuning while they progress. They are some hard job for the GM(s) controlling them. Respect these efforts. I doubt you could do it much better.

 1) Don't do things to others that you would not want done to you
2) No swearing
3) Give a helping hand to the new of this world and above all
4) Do your own thing and have fun!
5) Members are free to leave at any time with best wishes for their future endeavors. The door is always open for them to return if they wish.

 You are referring to No 3. Agree with middle bit. WHO is Disrespecting, or am I reading your words wrong ?As for last bit, we will never know.

[Akaye]

Lets take a standard GM event. spontaneous happening, rarely, hours of standing around waiting, instructions in plane chat

* Akaye sighs

No one is trying to disrespect you Janner. People not agreeing with you is not disrespect. As for what I have quoted, this happens with player events as well, if not worse because usually there isn't anyone in charge of these events but many peoples which tacks on to the waiting time. It is a learning process, the more events we do help give us an idea of what we could do to make these events run more smoothly.

I think by karyuu asking you if there isn't anything about the Dev\Gm's that you don't complain about is a good question. The only time you seem to have something to say is when it is something that is an issue. I would like to see you throw some events (I mean one you come up with all on your own and do all on your own). In the whole time I have been apart of this community and game I have never heard of an event you have put together. Give it a try first and then maybe you'll see why these things happen that you complain about, maybe even then you might have salutions that others have not thought of and this thread can become constructive. If you have put together an event that I might have forgotten or haven't heard of then you should know what we're up against.

[LigH]

Please, Janner - don't ...

I write "Respect the efforts", and you wonder if I said you wouldn't respect GMs... I never said that, and never meant that.

Please don't interpret every little part someone writes in the most pessimistic way. Think optimistic. This sentence was meant in general, to everyone.

You are not the hit dog that barks.

[Janner]

Sorry to Gag for misreading. think that clears up first point in Akaye post, as for comments on my post, have a good look in Mac section, also a fair few in General Discussion, here for example is one, In this was agreeing with the GM action.

  Gameplay / General Discussion / Re: Banned?    on: December 06, 2006, 01:31:11 PM
Me looks puzzled, how new were you, having spent many days and weeks in sewers, healing new, from just one attack from a rat, IS wondering how you were not killed?

 Gameplay / General Discussion / Simple phrases.

 Hear a attempt at helping Dev with player suggestions of simple phrases.

True I have never tried to put together a role-play event, normally too busy helping others, this includes taking part in player events.

P.S. Also as R.Guppy, you will find I have made plenty of posts.