GM events

[Janner]

OK I  think I  understand the problem, at moment normal behavior [ IC] for a pet is to just stand there.
 For a pet to be running around and jumping is not normal behavior [OOC]

 For a GM or Dev event, it is expectable for a player to be turned into a pet, in order for it to fit in with the event. I have no problem with that at all, I was only pointing out that normal player pets cant do this, so it is OOC.

[Karyuu]

OK I  think I  understand the problem, at moment normal behavior [ IC] for a pet is to just stand there.
 For a pet to be running around and jumping is not normal behavior [OOC]

No, this is the same thing you said in the beginning. When you are in-character, you treat the game world as reality. That means that you have it the other way around - it is OOC for pets to be standing around doing nothing, and IC for them to be running around.

[Syilph]

Example I summon my pet it stands there docent move, docent do much at all, in fact after a few mins it disappears, so in-game wise this is normal behavior, so to see a pet running around jumping is OOC. IN my imagination it is running around and doing all the things it would be reasonable to expect a pet to do. but the reality is it at the moment just stands there.

I think your pet is sick or something ^_^ [<--- IC] Too bad animal doctors are not implemented yet [<---OOC]

What's with all the attacks, he expresses his opinon, and yet you feel the need to laugh and speak to him as if he's a child.

DO YOU THINK THIS!!, HAHAHA, I'm going to laugh, .... well isn't that great.

Geeze Lighten up.

He wants a little more realism, that's all, and wants people to comform to the same rules you promote.

And i've never seen you make an event, so why are you so gung ho for them.

Step up and make a few if they're so GREAT!!!! in your mind.

I was wondering when you'll show up.
And your point is....
Besides the obvious test for our brain reaction time while trying to solve this existential mistery underlined by my previous question and the evident increase of a certain number on the left of your post. 

[Pip]

 
Although I don't entirely agree, I understand (after much argument) what Janner means:

In the settings of the game "pets" are magical creatures tied to and controlled by a magical ring. The owner/bearer of the ring can summon his/her "pet" which can sit in one place and look pretty and sooner or later disappears. So to make these creatures artificially run and jump around is out of character, it is not normal behaviour for "pets". We can roleplay and imagine our pets doing anything we like.

Similarly; Klyros cannot fly although we understand that in the future they might, so if a dev or gm were to make a klyros fly round the plaza it would be out of character even though it is probable that a creature with wings would realistically be able to fly.

Don't confuse OOC/IC within roleplay with Janner's meaning of something behaving as we expect (IC) or something acting abnormally (OOC)

I hope this clears up the misunderstanding.

[Parallo]

Thats not OOC/IC, thats implemented not implemented. Totaly unrelated things.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Heh It is not ooc for pets to run and jump and skip and even speak if their IC story allows for it an event was once run where Talad's (the god) pet was running around conversing with folks.

I can understand not liking seeing pets run by gms do things player pets cannot, but calling it OOC is a misuse of the term OOC.

If I run an invent involving a flying potion and my npcs fly because of it that is entirely IC even though players cannot fly.

it seems like you enjoyed the event so let's just run with that.

[Akaye]

What's with all the attacks, he expresses his opinon, and yet you feel the need to laugh and speak to him as if he's a child.

DO YOU THINK THIS!!, HAHAHA, I'm going to laugh, .... well isn't that great.

Geeze Lighten up.

He wants a little more realism, that's all, and wants people to comform to the same rules you promote.

And i've never seen you make an event, so why are you so gung ho for them.

Step up and make a few if they're so GREAT!!!! in your mind.

~~Datruth

Again I will say this, disagreeing with Janner and asking him to explain himself is NOT an attack. Get that straight please, you pop up in far to many threads claiming people are attacking and making the situation even worse. You really need to learn the difference.

(1)  As for events thrown, since you have been in planeshift Datruth there have been two Gm events thrown. I guess you just missed them. Maybe do some research and back up your claims before you start going off.

(2)  Great, wonderful, Janner wants more realisim, but there is a point where everyone has to wake up and see that the game isn't ready for that yet. It is still in it's baby stages for heavens sake.

(3) For someone who likes to point out the wrong people are doing on the forums (supposed attacking) you sure love to open your mouth and attack alot yourself. Your post Datruth by far is the one with the most agressive and insulting in this thread. Janner is a grown man and doesn't need you running to his defence, and I am hoping that what he read here ... unlike you  ... he will respect our opinoins and maybe try to communicate a little more clearer to us on what he is saying.


[edit] P.S: If your going to respond to this post Datruth then do it in a pm so we can not have the thread going off topic. Thanks.

[emeraldfool]

I seem to say this a lot: You can do anything so long as you can explain how. That's what good RPers do.

[Janner]

(3)  For someone who likes to point out the wrong people are doing on the forums (supposed attacking) you sure love to open your mouth and attack alot yourself. Your post Datruth by far is the one with the most agressive and insulting in this thread. Janner is a grown man and doesn't need you running to his defence, and I am hoping that what he read here ... unlike you  ... he will respect our opinoins and maybe try to communicate a little more clearer to us on what he is saying.

 NO i do not need anyone to run to my defence, all my life I have fought my own battles, in more ways than most of you could ever dream off, all that aside the biggest battle I have is getting some people to understand, what it is I am trying to say, even after various different ways of explaning, some still do not seem to get it.

SO as simple as I can with my very poor knowledge of spelling, which by the way I have only been able to master to a reasonable degree in the last year and a half, so I have to change words I wise to say to other words as I can not find the right spelling, and at 50 years old it is not very easy to learn something most of you have been able to do naturally at a very young age.

 Imagine I am a pet, I get summoned by my master, he can talk to me, I talk gibberish back to him, he commands me to do things, I stand there and look dumb, get bored and disappear giving him a message you feel your power to maintain your pet wan, hehe that will teach him to think he can tell me what to do.
 This is my normal behaviour, so for me this is in character.

 Would also like to point out that there is more than one meaning of the words OOC/IC. Which you seam to have forgotten.

[Karyuu]

There isn't, actually - I feel that the definitions you have are rather your own, as in all my years roleplaying I have never encountered them. If you roleplay that your pet disappears randomly and that he/she doesn't understand you, it doesn't mean that everyone else roleplays the same thing and considers it the default way to interact with your pet. If you think that it is OOC for GMs to bring about moving pets, then you're going to have to get over that "OOC" aspect :] We're not going to stop.

[Quitarias]

Janjner you do know that you are proposing an end to ALL RP events not just GM team made ones

* Quitarias ask if anyone has seens a Compulsion Glyph in game

hey anyone seen someone geting pickpocketed
Janner Read carefully :
this game is not finished and you say what isnt implemented yet is OOC then acording to you everything that isnt in-game now is OOC
and Janner you do know that this is just a game and that the dev's cant work fast enough to make everything availiable to players
we will have to wait to get moving pets and things like that
So just be patient and dont say everything is OOC or stop using the /me command

(23:59:11) Janner blsh thank you my lady
(23:59:26) Janner bows

blushing isnt implememnted yet and so is bowing your being OOC yourself in this case

[Janner]

Janjner you do know that you are proposing an end to ALL RP events not just GM team made ones

* Quitarias ask if anyone has seens a Compulsion Glyph in game

hey anyone seen someone geting pickpocketed
Janner Read carefully :
this game is not finished and you say what isnt implemented yet is OOC then acording to you everything that isnt in-game now is OOC
and Janner you do know that this is just a game and that the dev's cant work fast enough to make everything availiable to players
we will have to wait to get moving pets and things like that
So just be patient and dont say everything is OOC or stop using the /me command

(23:59:11) Janner blsh thank you my lady
(23:59:26) Janner bows

blushing isnt implememnted yet and so is bowing your being OOC yourself in this case

 these are examples of a spoken action, this is in character, I am talking of seeing actions , two totally different things., I see you see your pet stood there , if it was to suddenly run and jump, apart from the immediate shock of it, it would be OOC, as no pets in game can do it. Example O look at are pets playing together how nice, IC. But if the pets on screen did do this, OOC.

 I say again I am not against this happaning in game in my first post, I am pointing out this is OOC to see them do it.

[Rayken]

Example O look at are pets playing together how nice, IC. But if the pets on screen did do this, OOC.

 I say again I am not against this happaning in game in my first post, I am pointing out this is OOC to see them do it.

How so?  How can it possibly be Out of Character for a pet to do something that its character in fact allows?  Please keep in mind, game mechanics do not equal character.

[Bereror]

I say again I am not against this happaning in game in my first post, I am pointing out this is OOC to see them do it.

Janner, my friend. There is something that I don't understand in your logic. As you have clearly seen, pets can run around. They need a little help from GMs to move, but that's all they need. One day I or some other dev will add the missing code on the server and they start moving around without the help form GMs. Would that make it IC?

I have also seen your character running, even jumping. I know quite well it can't happen without your help. If you are away from the keyboard, your character would stand still on the Plaza and we would have to roleplay it in our chat: "Did you see Janner just ran to Harnquist?". Is the fact that we can actually see your character running OOC as well?

[chazarus]

Janner is just pissed he can't make his pet do anything.


..... and GM's can.