[ORGANIZATION] Black Sun Union Promotional Poster

[bilbous]

Sort of sounds like this empire of leading by following doesn't it? I found the reference after I posted, in wikipedia, no less.

I actually thought this was a good idea but it has some challenges that need to be accounted for. Hopefully the OP won't be too discouraged, but he wouldn't be the first.

It is kind of sad that a person goes to a lot of effort to make a public offering like this and all he hears are mostly the challenges his creation will face. I think it is better to try and give some feedback than just to ignore the posting. If I thought the idea had no merit I would not hesitate to completely ignore it.

[Karyuu]

I'm not sure Karyuu is totally correct by saying "... there are no other worlds .." because there are.  Just that, there is no known way back.

Hey..

As far as knowledge goes, there are no other worlds for the people living inside.

The people of Yliakum do not know of any other worlds, nor even the "surface." There are legends of the Stone Labyrinths and the city of Kadaikos, but that is a legend at this point and nothing more. [edit] While it's true that the different races came from different worlds, what I mean in my earlier sentences is that there are no known worlds nearby that you could just "pop" into, whether by travel or magic. Sure, you can invent something and make yourself a portal, but that's generally considered taking the easy way out.[/edit]

I'm very impressed with the level of detail and thought that was put into the organization of this concept - if every guild was this thought-out, I would be hugging people left and right So there are definitely positives. I'm sorry if I don't spend the time to mark them out whenever I post, I only have a limited amount of energy sometimes.

[Parallo]

I didn't read it all but, from by brief skim, the problem could be solved by making it into a political party presenting itself as an alternative to the current system rater than a seperate government itself already. I'd like to see this idea thrive (Although not as much as the Empire ). Its too good to die.

[Nikodemus]

The work put into this organization is really big and since there is really no doubt about it, i asked about the only thing which bothered me I was hoping you will give the answer, but instead others did and so i will continue
Fact is that centuries ago, people of different race crossd the portals and dound themselves in the middle of almost barren cave world with no light source. They traveled for years before they reached Yliakum. If life in these caves is tought, it is possible. So if you really want to start actual contry, if somewhere, it is a place where it could be. And life there, even if with no lightsource, wouldn't be that tought, since these people could trade with people from Yliakum. For example, precious mined resources for food.
You probably also wouldn't have problems with too low population, because its is a commonly known fact that Yliakum don't have problems with overpopulating, because many young adventures go to stone labirynths and never come back (die for example). You could use this fact and claim that some of these people reach your country and stay there, what would make it even more believable to exist.
As been said, you could even try to claim some Yliakum lands by various way, including force, but none of it would be simple, but very near impossible.

Anyway, that would be really original idea for an organization/guilds, only you may have problems with getting members. Because before we will have some stone labirynths, other maps will be finished before this. But i wouldn't be suprised if we would have sooner than later a mining camp deep inside stone labiryths. A place which you would claim as yours country teritory.

If you will fight enough for your idea and make it really believable, in PS setting (what is possible), talk with setting devs, maybe in few years you will have official guild Yes, i'm optimistic and i try to encourage you.

[lordraleigh]

Thanks for the support... now Eljar Republic is only a part of the whole thing... it will mostly be a chance for those who have well developed characters but wish to make a break from them to roleplay their new ones or different ones. While the Republican Movement will be a group of several organizations that will defend the republican ideals inside Yliakum.

Now while the fate of Eljar Republic is unsure(And it will take more some months finding people to leave), as that once all leave from Yliakum communications will be cutted off for a long time, the same cannot be said about the Republican Movement(As such the Embassy is highly conceptual for now)

I hope these changes will adequate it more to the settings.

P.S. The members consider Eljar as having no alignment as they don't believe in moral dualism.

[LARAGORN]

I am impressed with the level of detail you have set out lordraleigh, clearly you have been thinking about this for some time. I would suggest  another indepth review of the settings and history of Yliakum, as i believe with a few adjustments you can make this epic idea fit.

Good luck and keep the passion for PS 

[lordraleigh]

    As Annera was handling several red books to other members, she said in a cheerful and charismatic tone during a speech:
__Today our organization will come to proeminence comrades! We should spread our words through the masses, through the scientifical community and across the whole Yliakum! Soon we will not only be known, but also have enough fame to attract crowds of people that sympathizes with our ideals! Another phase of development begun for us! Lets bring the good news to the world! We are the Future!
   Several applauses and cheers came around, as the members were getting the red books labeled as "Informational Handbook of the Yliakum Republican Movement", suddenly one of those books reached your hands as an activist gave it to you, and you decided to open it.

[lordraleigh awaits the bombardment of criticisms against the design of the site, hoping most will be constructive criticisms...
My web design skills are not very good, and I have no dreamweaver with me to make fancier stuff(Something that also I do not see as necessary) ]

[Nikodemus]

You could have choisen better colors. I understand you want the book to be red. But why the green writing? Also, most red books has just only red covers.
Well, just balance the colors.
I wont judge the design as you obviously know little about html. One advice though, best sites are done in editors like notepad. Although if you like colored html tags, use notepad ++. Dremwaver is not what you need

[lordraleigh]

You could have choisen better colors. I understand you want the book to be red. But why the green writing? Also, most red books has just only red covers.
Well, just balance the colors.
I wont judge the design as you obviously know little about html. One advice though, best sites are done in editors like notepad. Although if you like colored html tags, use notepad ++. Dremwaver is not what you need

About the design it is very simple HTML with CSS, IFrames and Tables, no javascript, PHP, CGI-BIN or other more complex things(And I used NVU to make it, to speed up the process, but I know enough of HTML, I just almost never practice it and usually forget most of it because of the lack of practice).

That "Green" Writing in the "Banner" will be there temporarily until someone with better Photoshop or GIMP skills than mine makes a better Banner for it(I made that one with 12 layers in GIMP, but my skills are at best mediocre, I know)

The book was firstly designed to be fully red colored including the pages. It is part of the marketing(Propaganda) strategy of making something really unique to promote the organization and to fix the its public image with the "Red Book".

About colors... the main colors that will be used in it are either brown tones, black tones or red tones. As it says, it is a temporary(placeholder) design that will be replaced as soon as possible(My first idea was to make a open book background but it was beyond my meager skills).

I will gladly accept a suggestion on the colors layout involving black, brown or red.

[Nikodemus]

I have no idea why you had to use iframes.
Banner, just make the green writing a red shade or something, i'm sure you know how to play with hue , especially that you used layers
Consider using lighter colors. Pages of books are white, in the past light brown i suppose. I gues red coloring is possible, but very light red, due to ink rules. Letters are black, or dark, as there arent really light inks. Mainly because light ink is poorly visible, when the pages are dark already.

But maybe someone else will comment on the content instead?

[lordraleigh]

*Annera pins a small parchment with a note in a recently placed board at the front of the Movement headquarters

We are looking for:

     The Novari Institute of Scientifical Progress and the Legion of the Dark Sun are already operational, and we are looking for the proper people to join in on either of those so we can expand ourselves and register officially these organizations as entities separated from the Core of the Black Sun, here will be the details the people we are looking for on each(besides the minimum conditions that are stated in our handbook):

Legion of the Black Sun

     Militiamen of the Legion must be physically and mentally prepared to exerce their functions regardless of being advised or not by a Commander and be ready to embrace the ideals of Freedom. Here are the most important requirements:

• Open mind to embrace progressist ideas, previous support or activism for the ideal of Freedom
• Self-discipline, independence, willfulness to learn or already skilled at both combat and tactics
• Respect for dignity and life, and no previous history of crimes of war

Novari Institute

     Researchers must be able to work in group between specialists of many mundane scientifical and magical sciences fields. Here are the main conditions to be applicable as one:

• Open mind to embrace progressist ideas, no prejudice against magic in the case of scientists nor against mundane science in the case of wizards
• Creativity, inventiveness, willingness to learn or already knowledgeable of one or more fields of science
• Rational and logic approach to problems, capacity of separating the personal from the professional relationships

If you are interested and think you have the conditions to fit in, you can be sure you will not regret if you decide to ask for membership.

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Also the website has been updated to a better color scheme, and as stated the currently simple structure from it is temporary, and as soon as possible a new, more elaborated version will replace it

Finally something already happened and you can check its written version here: http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=27316.0

And lastly: The names of the organizations were changed. Mostly for IC reasons, but also for OOC reasons(Mainly because the previous names lacked originality and the main name was a little alike to this one). IC reasons include: A more appropriate name for the way it is organized, the fact its goals are not specifically centered on republicanism, the fact it does not intend to remain and operate forever only inside Yliakum, to make the purpose of each organization inside it more clear, among many others.

Also an important note: as soon as one of those mentioned here have people to become the "guildmasters", to promote it in these forums(Not for the Legion, as for now most members aren't common users of the forums) and to manage their own forums(they may have their own online forums beyond the main forum of the Black Sun Progressist Union, but I think that for now it's better to have a centralized forum for all but the Black Watch C.I.D.). Also the Legion already became a guild OOCly(IC it will be considered as an organization).
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