Evil Siteri needs victims!

[Zan]

Well whenever Siteri wants to be hunted down by guards or whatever to pay for her actions, let me know .. I have a guard characted I could revive for this. Somehow I have the feeling PS' evil people are far from ready for that though

[Narure]

Noo PS evil people do want someone that will try and stop us, robbing three people in a row then being able to wander through the plaza and start a polite conversation with the people infront of harnquist is getting dull and stupid.

[Parallo]

The dark side has only killed one person so far. The good Siteri found her later and explained the situation, and apparently she believed Siteri.

So you killed someone then found them later? So siad person was a hero with the ability to escape from the death realm? So you can kill heroes? Scary stuff...

[Coneitic]

Noo PS evil people do want someone that will try and stop us, robbing three people in a row then being able to wander through the plaza and start a polite conversation with the people infront of harnquist is getting dull and stupid.

dull and stupid? how about understandable

its starting to become dull and stupid the fact that everyone who wants to play the evil charactor is to be in fear of these imaginary guards. we make up the population of Yliakum. we create our own bad guys. in my opinion we should make our own good guys. our own guards. You know if someone good wants to kill someone evil. they are justified, no need for guards, no need for hiding. but if a evil person kills a good guy... its stupid to see them walking the streets.... why? i hear there were guards at one time, but they are gone. its our responsiblity to make a governing law in the land, not the developers. if i walk by and kill someone well known, maybe rob them... like with untar... i had no fear of guards. they cant do anythin in game, my fear was other guilds. such as elemental lights. they hunted me down. that was the consequence to my action. im tired of everyone hatin on the evil players. dont expect us to lay low and hide, unless there is a real governing force to stop us. Siteri can go on killing who she wants being evil. untill you guys round up and stop her, why should she fear anything. I understand there are these governing forces the dev's made. but they are not around yet, untill then dont you think its our responsibility to control laws in the land?

But like i always say everyone wants a more realistic... or believable world... untill it comes to evil. then noone wants that around, we are to be feared of these invisibile guards. i see all these guilds... peace keepers, guardians of power, warriors, yet noone of them control the law most are just neutral.

sorry for ranting but i hate when people say you cant just walk aroudn the land doin evil... siteri keep it up till an actual guard, or peace keeper, or warrior or whatever stop you.....

by the way to get this off my chest, i hear all these guilds that are nuetral and belive in balance of good and evil. yet none are evil, in this world of righteous heros and good guys.... man its hard being a bad guy...

[Parallo]

You see all those chaps standing around wearing the heavy armour with the big swords? They're the guards. Treating them like statues that cannot punish you in and IC way is bad RPing. Your way of looking at the game is "dull and stupid" to quote.

[ThomPhoenix]

@ Coneitic

"Roleplaying" that you are invincible and don't have to take responsibility for you actions, simply because proper guards and a justice system haven't been implemented yet is very, very wrong.

And I think your definition of "evil" is a bit off.
Evil is not all about robbing and murdering people.

im tired of everyone hatin on the evil players

Let me get this.
You murder people.
People hate you for murdering people and give you a hard time because of it.
You're tired of that.

Do you really think it's odd that people give evil players "a hard time"?
If you can't cope with that, become another of those "knight of the...." players.

Or...

You could try changing your way of expressing evil.
A hint: try not setting the tavern on fire again.
People tend to get angry because of that and it puts you in the spotlight of the "good" guilds.

[Coneitic]

you both are lookin at it wrong. i no way play that im invincible, and i stated that i take responsibility. i am the least invcible player. my charactor is  just a common thief, a regular gangster, ask anyone that rp fights with me, i always get beat up.

as for the guards standin around..... i can see that they have some say, but really how do you know they can stop you. what if your army is bigger than thiers.. what if you are strong enough to take them on.?? noone ever factors that in. its wrong to say im invincible, i understand that, even tho if you knew my charactor he is the furthest thing from that.... without a bodyguard or something like that im weak as can be, even if i can out duel some, i still play the weak guy.

and your right evil is not all about robbing and murdering people. but thats a pretty good example of evil.

Quote "evil is not all about robbing and murdering people" no but robbing and murdering people is all about evil.

i belive that roleplayin the guards can stop anything, and capture anyone, is plain silly. i understand they are there, but to rp you cant do anythin around them, makes no sense. and rping that gurads can capture you, and kill you... shouldnt we be able to... say kill harnquist, catch him unarmed and capture him? no of course not, so its kinda a one sided thing.

as for you parallo, your comments, everyone you've made after mine, they are immature, instead of speaking maturely about different views such as thom did you make sarcastic remarks... techniques used mainly when i was a kid.... so to your comment.. your right, rping they cannot punish you is bad rp.. but to rp they are invincible is bad rp to.

[Parallo]

I saw no sarcasm in my post. I pointed something out for your benifit. To say that trying to help people is immature is just plain misunderstanding on your part. If you ment the dull and stupid remark, scroll up a bit and you'll notice that I was in fact quoting you and a poster before you whom you yourself quoted.

If you rob someone or murder someone you should at least not walk past the guards smiling and waving. Rping it either way can be wrong but as a rule I'd say without strength they would not have the job they have. In addition one look at them tells you the have superior equipment to you and thirdly do you think that your "Bigger army" is able to stand up to the guards and the people that would join with the guards? The Outlaws for example, being so disorganised, wouldn't stand a chance against the guards. Now if the people that disagreed with the Outlaws joined the side of the guards you would have a ratio of about 50:1. They would basicly slaughter them. I once saw two Outlaws(I'll refrain from naming names but you know who you are.) rob a person in front of the two guards by the tavern. Does that make sence? Is that good rping? The simple answer is no.

[ThomPhoenix]

Robbing and murdering is for the common folks, not for the real evil.

And to be honest, I have RP'ed with you.
(Did you really think my in-game name is ThomPhoenix?)

And I can't say you played a mortal role.
If I remember correctly there was thick black some errupting from every body opening (...almost every opening )
and even though you were cornered by a big group of angry people you still pretended to have the upper hand.

I didn't see the end of it all, but I can surely say you weren't as vulnerable as you claim to be.

To be short: It's indeed hard to RP evil but many are also RP'ing it in the wrong way.

[Hassadria]

So you killed someone then found them later? So siad person was a hero with the ability to escape from the death realm? So you can kill heroes? Scary stuff...

Well... now I have to say a few words too since it was my alt Siteri killed there in front of Harnquist.
According to a well known person we all are heroes and able to escape the DR. If someone plays it differently it's their choice.

And to be honest... I waited quite a long time in DR to finally find someone who was willing to RP the way out with me. If it wasn't for him, I would have deleted that char.
Thanks to Balonik for that nice RP.


Edit: To clarify that point: She returned home after this experience.

[Parallo]

We're all heroes? Heh. Please direct me to this quote.

And to be honest, I have RP'ed with you.
(Did you really think my in-game name is ThomPhoenix?)

I didn't have a clue who you were till a few weeks  ago.

And I can't say you played a mortal role.
If I remember correctly there was thick black some errupting from every body opening (...almost every opening )
and even though you were cornered by a big group of angry people you still pretended to have the upper hand.

Yes I remember this having something to do with the Dark way. Seems kind of unrelated to me. Why would Talad have created such a useless glyph as one to make a person look "scary." And what does smoke have to do with Dark way? Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no expert on the magic of PS but is each spell not made by a glyph?

[ThomPhoenix]

Cool, I think you're like the second player to find out Parallo.
Actually the first because I accidentally told the first one
But of course, it wasn't that hard for you

Yes I remember this having something to do with the Dark way. Seems kind of unrelated to me. Why would Talad have created such a useless glyph as one to make a person look "scary." And what does smoke have to do with Dark way? Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no expert on the magic of PS but is each spell not made by a glyph?

All magic comes from glyphs, yes.
Many glyphs exist and only a few of them are implemented now.
None of them have the function of making someone look scary.
Well, there's Chaos and maybe Divination, but I don't think they serve that goal.
I believe the Darkness glyph has the ability to create a black cloud for a short while, but that's it really.

[Hassadria]

We're all heroes? Heh. Please direct me to this quote.

Since you asked for it, here it goes:

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=26534.msg298785#msg298785
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=26831.msg304194#msg304194
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25330.msg280964#msg280964

Those are just a few. If you use the search option, you'll surely find more.

And like I already said: If you play the DR to be final, it's your choice.

[Coneitic]

Let me get this.
You murder people.
People hate you for murdering people and give you a hard time because of it.
You're tired of that.

Do you really think it's odd that people give evil players "a hard time"?
If you can't cope with that, become another of those "knight of the...." players.

not hating IC thats fine... i was talking more along the lines of, you have no idea how many times people take IC feelings towards Coneitic and make them OOC. i am constantly harrassed OOC for my actions IC thats what i ment.

as for that time in the tavern, of course i played i had the upperhand, i always do that, thats my charactor he thinks hes all that and a bag of chips. [takin it back 90's style]. as for the smoke, i was trying to evolve my charactor into somethin different, but after a talk with einnol i realized thats not Coneitic, he is just a round about evil guy. nothing special. now my rp evil isnt what you seem to be sayin, like i guess organized evil or whatever, my evil is more along the lines of, "thers coneitic, keep your trias hidden and your weapons handy." plus the smoke had to do with duraza's rp. im learning more each day, my skills have greatly improved, i became a millionare simply by rping. =) but it just seems all players want a peaceful land, and will rp anything to keep it that way. like the guard thing. there is a minimal amount of guards in hydlaa, so theoretically if you have the army behind you... [which i do], they shouldnt be a problem, untill people step up and take control of their city

also i noticed if i kill somone on the plaza i should be arrested or killed for it, but if someone kills me on the plaza.... nothin should happen to them. shouldnt those actions be carried out by guards not in the hands of these so called hero's? seems it should work both ways.

and i apologize for teh smoke, i tried something new, somethin to take my charactor in another direction but it was kinda played out as i learned so i stopped... lol my bad

None of them have the function of making someone scary.
I believe the Darkness glyph has the ability to create a black cloud for a short while, but that's it really.

i dont know about you, but seeing someone start emitting black smoke from them would make me back up, kinda scary to see that...

[ThomPhoenix]

Of course it works both ways, you can't kill someone and say "Hey, I can't help it, he was evil.".
As for being harassed OOC: as long as you keep your evil RP IC, the complainers should stay IC.
If they take their complaints OOC, you should do a very OOC'ly /report

i dont know about you, but seeing someone start emitting black smoke from them would make me back up, kinda scary to see that...

As I said, only for a short while, nothing more permanent.
And I don't think it should actually be described as "smoke", probably more like the glyph's name; darkness.