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Zellgadess

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Very little windows
« on: January 16, 2007, 09:34:52 am »
This morning, I looked at something i've been looking at day in day out for a while, and I noticed something i've never noticed before.
I did a quick search on the forums and havent found anything relating to the very small buildings on windows in hydlaa.



All of these houses have very small windows. I'm wondering if there is some reason behind this? It seems rather impractical seeing as they would let very little light in, meaning having to waste candles to accualy see anything during the day. Aswell, The bottom level has no windows at all, which would mean pitch black. There are houses in hydlaa with nice big windows, are they just worried about having people sneak in during the night? They seem more like arrow loops you would see on a castle. Would people be that scared of imcomming projectiles, and the owners of the seemingly richer houses be not?

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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2007, 11:18:06 am »
Im not an expert on the subject, but ever think its to do with overall structural support of the building with limited technology? Also they weren't really able to make Huge window glass until industrial revolution, any large windows would have had lots of panels of glass fixed to iron or stone or something.

Now someone will reply and correct me I'm sure. :D
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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2007, 11:56:54 am »
Thats normal the windows are so small. The bigger windows, the more cold wind is getting inside. Windows are expensive, not only glass, but it is much faster and easier to build just a wall. Remember these houses aren't from stones or bricks, but wood. EDIT: (In fact some seems to be made partially of some stone material, but this what keeps it together is still wood.) I suppose there is also no glass in these windows, but these membranes made from something inside some animals ;)
The houses with big glass windows are owned probably by very rich people.

Concluding, i think some glass windows in sme houses are too big and in other houses with these tiny windows too small.
It is mainly due to a fact, that there are only few textures for walls and some were made without good proportions and other are so badly resized, while it should tile more or less. Finally, the building wall lengts can't be very custon if there are only few textures. The fact there are no windows at level one is also due to texturing errors.
Although there is room for progress, thanx to this our RAM isn't that much used while the Hydlaa is loaded.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2007, 11:59:51 am by Nikodemus »



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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2007, 12:07:31 pm »
Yes, you can see the brick in some houses when theres a tear in the outer layer, I'm not saying glass is needed for these windows though, but being so small they would let so little light in. Yes the cold could be a issue, is it cold on the top level tho? Being closet to the sun, I would think it would be hotter. What is the average temperature? The heat is kept in seeing as the whole place is underground, and would the planets core increase heat also? I did a quick Search and could not find anything on the topic of temperature.

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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2007, 12:18:14 pm »
another possibility is its just the culture, people like small windows.

or just lazy builders. :P
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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2007, 12:28:31 pm »
Considering glassblowing takes about 1 PP and alot of practice, there would be alot of spare glass pannels lying around that people made!

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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2007, 12:32:50 pm »
As some one eluded to earlier. In medieval times the only two methods of making plate glass , the best was blowing bubbles of glass and then splitting the bubble and unfolding it. The other one and much inferior method was getting a molten lump of glass and and stretching it  untill it resembled a glass pane (but resembled a thick, distorted, full of bubbles glass pane).

Another reason could be that because glass is expensive due to the method of manufacture you would need to have a fair amount of money to buy it, So the Hydlaa authorities could have imposed a glass tax similar to what happened in England a few of centuries ago. Its a very easy way to tell if someone is rich because you just measure their windows.

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Considering glassblowing takes about 1 PP and alot of practice, there would be alot of spare glass pannels lying around that people made!

Whos to say that when implemented the 1st ten levels you could only make glass vials and flasks and other such small items. Blowing glass for windows would definatley be at the top end of the 'tech tree'
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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2007, 12:45:33 pm »
Ok, so if glass were to be used it would be far to expencive, But is glass really nessasary? Could a open window be plausable?
As i said is the cold a problem in Hydlaa? If so are there many bugs?


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(quote screwing with me and to tired, "too below! =P")

It was more of a joke =P How do we know glass is  a valuable comodity? There are may glass potions in the game, and for only 30tria i think. And i'm guessing the accual potion is more of the cost!

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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2007, 12:51:39 pm »
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Ok, so if glass were to be used it would be far to expencive, But is glass really nessasary? Could a open window be plausable?
As i said is the cold a problem in Hydlaa? If so are there many bugs?

I think you're reading into everything far to much, alot of the settings are yet to be released or even written so maybe those questions can't even be answered,(Or maybe they can be answered  :detective:)  as for bugs yeah there's plenty but i'm thinking of different bugs.  ;D

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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2007, 01:04:23 pm »
Going into detail is, exactly where i want to go ;D

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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2007, 01:09:37 pm »
Yeah, I was joking I'm intrigued about things to do with Yliakum, there is always something to learn which you didn't know.

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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2007, 01:15:19 pm »
Even if glass is an issue, many houses had larger openings with shutters or a small door. Lighting the inside of buildings was a big problem in colder areas, but even they had opennings that could be opend or closed. I have yet to hear of freezing temperarures, although every building has a fireplace. I think you will see a change in building styles with the addition of other villages as PS expands, and who knows maybe there will be a rework on the existing structures too.

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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2007, 01:27:17 pm »
Hydlaa does get foggy from time to time and ive yet to see a large body of water like an ocean that coul account for all the moisture in the air so I guess it does get quite cold at times.

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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2007, 01:32:33 pm »
could be that the workers couldn't make such strong windows to bare the weight of what is above it, so they made them small to make them able to carry more weight... but then again, they can implent magic in their solution
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Re: Very little windows
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2007, 01:46:40 pm »
Is that planeshift or medievil times? What is your source Laragorn?

Yes the fog could show it is can be cold in hydlaa, Or perhaps it's fog that has been blown uphill from the lower grades?
But if it is cold enough for fog on the highest level it must be freezing at the bottom, and thats not right. I have found nowhere that the Nolthrir have any resistance to the harsh cold, and they seem to be very scantly clad to be underwater. Maby there is a equalibrium of heat comming from the core of the planet and the Azure Sun? Making the 4 and 5th level the coldest. So much to consider!

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People of the middle ages were able to support much bigger windows, and I believe they were mainly wood, not brick houses. You must remember that these people had already had building experience before they came to Yliakum.
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