Respect

[Kalika]

awww zanz...i sorrys for bein mean 

* Kalika huggles

Zanzibar

[zanzibar]

* zanzibar is huggled.

[emeraldfool]

not that i dont respect you...youre just one of the few thats able to conjure up my temper so fast
 

Aww, that's sweet. You have no idea how much that means to me

[Kalika]

eheheheh i hope you feel all proud...but not too proud ehehehhe :-P

[Narure]

You respect them because you where told to respect them by someone you respect... So why do you respect your parents?

There's a difference between respecting someone and being obedient to that person.

Boss is obeyed by all, when he is nearby, everyone courteously greet him and kiss his *** . Then during the job, while the boss is away(this is common specially in the case of obedience through intimidation):

__He is a jerk! I wish I could get another job as I can't stand him!
__Yes Bill, he is a    , I wish I could say it straight at his face!
__Don't worry pal, one day we will have the chance of teaching that ******* a lesson!
__Quiet! He is coming!

That explains pretty well the difference between real respect and imposed "respect". (Well it's tough to describe this without using expletives, but all are covered up, so those who know them will guess, those who don't, won't know)

But would you respect the dead if your boss told you to? I doubt that you actualy respect the dead because your parents taught you to emerald. Probably just your own want for respect when you are dead... or somthing.

[emeraldfool]

But would you respect the dead if your boss told you to? I doubt that you actualy respect the dead because your parents taught you to emerald. Probably just your own want for respect when you are dead... or somthing.

Actually, I plan to make my funeral into a massive joke...

But really, your parents teach you almost everything you believe in, whether indirectly, or directly. And my parents either shouted at me or started crying (father and mother, respectively) if I ever joked about somebody's death...

In fact, that's how they dealt with most problems concerning me...

Which, in turn, led me to not respect them...

[Narure]

that doesnt sound like you respect the dead, sound like you are scared of disrespecting them.

[emeraldfool]

that doesnt sound like you respect the dead, sound like you are scared of disrespecting them.

There's a difference?

I dunno, maybe it was a bad example. The point is, there's many ways you can respect someone, and many ways you can disrespect them. And people will respect other people for different reasons.

Personally I think the reason nobody screws around with Nurahk is because he doesn't want to be screwed around with, and they respect him enough to conform to his wishes. Other people might not care if they get birthday-bashed, and so those people get screwed around with. There's no difference in respect between them.

[zanzibar]

I don't think that Emerald knows the difference between respect and fear...

[emeraldfool]

I don't think that Emerald knows the difference between respect and fear...

Like I said: I'm not afraid of the dead, and I'm not afraid of my parents.

I believe what I believe because it is inherent in my psyche.



Just like you believe it's perfectly acceptable to follow people around and contradict everything they say regardless of your personal opinion I'm betting you had oppressive parents, or grew up with a bunch of siblings who always forced their opinions on you and argued everything you said.

(This is the part where you contradict that )

[Narure]

I believe what I believe because it is inherent in my psyche.

Balderdash. Thats just saying "i respect the dead cos i do" which is rather narrow minded and has nothing to do with respect.

[zanzibar]

Balderdash. Thats just saying "i respect the dead cos i do" which is rather narrow minded and has nothing to do with respect.

It's also convenient because it means you don't have to justify it.

[emeraldfool]

I believe what I believe because it is inherent in my psyche.

Balderdash. Thats just saying "i respect the dead cos i do" which is rather narrow minded and has nothing to do with respect.

No, I've already said I respect the dead because my parents told me raised me that way. If someone says "respect the dead, boy!" your entire life, it becomes inherent in your psyche. And then you 'just do'.


It's the same reason people cringe when you say 'f***'. F*** is just 4 symbols connected together in series. Yet 'kufc' doesn't make people cringe because they weren't shouted at by their parents whenever they say it (if people actually went around saying 'kufc' ).

There's people in their 40s who have left home and barely write to their parents, yet they'd still be hesitant to say 'f***'. Is it out of respect for their parents? Fear of them?

[Narure]

We don't say F*** because in our language it is an insult so we dont say it because we respect the people we are talking to. The world would still be flat if everyone was as narrow minded as you.

[emeraldfool]

We don't say F*** because in our language it is an insult so we dont say it because we respect the people we are talking to. The world would still be flat if everyone was as narrow minded as you.

Yeah, but who taught you 'f***' was an insult? In German, the word 'Fotze' is extremely offensive, but I'm sure it means nothing to you (assuming you're not German  ), because nobody ever taught you not to say it. That doesn't mean it's not offensive - if you ever said that in the presense of a German he'd kick your ass.

The point is, now that I told you that 'Fotze' is incredibly offensive, will the sound of the word now conjure the same feelings as if I said 'f***'? If someone called you a Fotze, would you react the same way as if someone called you a 'f****r'?

I'm thinking not, because the word 'Fotze' and its connotations are not inherent in your psyche.