Respect

[zanzibar]

You respect them because you where told to respect them by someone you respect... So why do you respect your parents?

There's a difference between respecting someone and being obedient to that person.

[emeraldfool]

You respect them because you where told to respect them by someone you respect... So why do you respect your parents?

There's a difference between respecting someone and being obedient to that person.

Pretty much.

[Kiern]

Either way, I was at a house party the other night and it was my friends birthday.  Long story short, he got birthday beats, tons of them, I actualy had to step in and stop them.
Now, when my birthday comes along, I don't get the beats.  I get free booze, presents, hugs, kisses, more free booze.

I'm not sure this really has anything to do with respect. Does this friend of your take part in these "birthday beats" when it is someone elses birthday?  That's usually the case of, if you do it, other people are going to do it to you.

My personal opinion is that you get more respected when you respect others as "lessers" and can back it up.

I wish I had more time to say why exactly this is completely wrong, but I have to go to work.  Maybe once I get off, if I remember.

[zanzibar]

I wish I had more time to say why exactly this is completely wrong, but I have to go to work.  Maybe once I get off, if I remember.

It's wrong because people won't respect you for it.  Instead, they'll resent you and see you as a snot nosed jerk.  They'll be looking forward to your fall, they'll joke about your attitude, etc and so on.

[emeraldfool]

I wish I had more time to say why exactly this is completely wrong, but I have to go to work.  Maybe once I get off, if I remember.

It's wrong because people won't respect you for it.  Instead, they'll resent you and see you as a snot nosed jerk.  They'll be looking forward to your fall, they'll joke about your attitude, etc and so on.

Psch, and you're slagging me for being insensitive?

[lordraleigh]

You respect them because you where told to respect them by someone you respect... So why do you respect your parents?

There's a difference between respecting someone and being obedient to that person.

Boss is obeyed by all, when he is nearby, everyone courteously greet him and kiss his *** . Then during the job, while the boss is away(this is common specially in the case of obedience through intimidation):

__He is a jerk! I wish I could get another job as I can't stand him!
__Yes Bill, he is a    , I wish I could say it straight at his face!
__Don't worry pal, one day we will have the chance of teaching that ******* a lesson!
__Quiet! He is coming!

That explains pretty well the difference between real respect and imposed "respect". (Well it's tough to describe this without using expletives, but all are covered up, so those who know them will guess, those who don't, won't know)

[emeraldfool]

Sigh, pretty much every boss I've ever had has been like that, and almost every single one has either fired me after a heated argument, or driven me to quit

I'm a bit of a rebel...

[Kalika]

I did a couple searches, nothing popped up.

Either way, I was at a house party the other night and it was my friends birthday.  Long story short, he got birthday beats, tons of them, I actualy had to step in and stop them.
Now, when my birthday comes along, I don't get the beats.  I get free booze, presents, hugs, kisses, more free booze.

This puzzles me, my friend is a nice guy, well built.  I'm an insult spewing brat who barely works out and keeps barely fit.  Yet, I get tons of respect, unbelievable amounts.  People come up to me and ask me what to do, people trust me with their problems, people step out of my way.

Anyways, the question is, what is respect?  How do you get it?

My personal opinion is that you get more respected when you respect others as "lessers" and can back it up.

I'd like to see what you people think.  Mainly Zanzibar and Emerald, for some odd reason.

i try to respect everyone at first, cause we are all deserving of it
however i lose my respect for someone when they dont stick to what they say and go behind my back
i have respect for those that have a good head on their shoulders and do what they say theyll do...modesty but not too much is also nice.

[zanzibar]

i try to respect everyone at first, cause we are all deserving of it
however i lose my respect for someone when they dont stick to what they say and go behind my back
i have respect for those that have a good head on their shoulders and do what they say theyll do...modesty but not too much is also nice.

You can treat someone with respect without actually respecting them...

[Kalika]

oh no i agree zanzibar. i act courteously towards those i dont respect, but i dont pretend to.

[Nurahk]

Either way, I was at a house party the other night and it was my friends birthday.  Long story short, he got birthday beats, tons of them, I actualy had to step in and stop them.
Now, when my birthday comes along, I don't get the beats.  I get free booze, presents, hugs, kisses, more free booze.

I'm not sure this really has anything to do with respect. Does this friend of your take part in these "birthday beats" when it is someone elses birthday?  That's usually the case of, if you do it, other people are going to do it to you.

My personal opinion is that you get more respected when you respect others as "lessers" and can back it up.

I wish I had more time to say why exactly this is completely wrong, but I have to go to work.  Maybe once I get off, if I remember.

The birthday beats were overdone is what I was saying.  It started off as it usualy does and then just escalated.

As for the second part, I'm beginning to believe that more and more.  You still respect the person but do not halt their development of an inferiority complex.  Be nice to them but make it seem that they should be happy you are being nice to them, proud even.

All the same, I posted this because I want you people to prove me wrong, so please, go ahead.

[Kiern]

Boss is obeyed by all, when he is nearby, everyone courteously greet him and kiss his *** . Then during the job, while the boss is away(this is common specially in the case of obedience through intimidation):

__He is a jerk! I wish I could get another job as I can't stand him!
__Yes Bill, he is a    , I wish I could say it straight at his face!
__Don't worry pal, one day we will have the chance of teaching that ******* a lesson!
__Quiet! He is coming!

That explains pretty well the difference between real respect and imposed "respect". (Well it's tough to describe this without using expletives, but all are covered up, so those who know them will guess, those who don't,  won't know)

That was pretty much the exact example I was going to give to add on to what zanzibar said.  Though you probably said it better..

As for the second part, I'm beginning to believe that more and more.  You still respect the person but do not halt their development of an inferiority complex.  Be nice to them but make it seem that they should be happy you are being nice to them, proud even.

All the same, I posted this because I want you people to prove me wrong, so please, go ahead.

We can't actually prove you wrong, that will only happen through experience.  And also, while these people might "respect" you, treating them this way will keep them from getting closer to you.  I think people have always put too much emphasis on respect and I don't think anyone deserves respect until they prove they should have it.  In the end it all depends on the people you talk to I guess...because I know if anyone treated me the way you described, bad things will happen

[emeraldfool]

oh no i agree zanzibar. i act courteously towards those i dont respect, but i dont pretend to.

Yeah, that's pretty obvious, at least with me


Smartarses just don't get respected 'round here...

[Kalika]

not that i dont respect you...youre just one of the few thats able to conjure up my temper so fast

 

ehehhehe but sometimes its nice to get that adrenaline

[zanzibar]

It's probably a good thing.  It takes me longer to piss Kalika off, but when I do, it's much more violent.