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Respect
« on: January 27, 2007, 10:11:47 pm »
I did a couple searches, nothing popped up.

Either way, I was at a house party the other night and it was my friends birthday.  Long story short, he got birthday beats, tons of them, I actualy had to step in and stop them.
Now, when my birthday comes along, I don't get the beats.  I get free booze, presents, hugs, kisses, more free booze.

This puzzles me, my friend is a nice guy, well built.  I'm an insult spewing brat who barely works out and keeps barely fit.  Yet, I get tons of respect, unbelievable amounts.  People come up to me and ask me what to do, people trust me with their problems, people step out of my way.

Anyways, the question is, what is respect?  How do you get it?

My personal opinion is that you get more respected when you respect others as "lessers" and can back it up.

I'd like to see what you people think.  Mainly Zanzibar and Emerald, for some odd reason.

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Re: Respect
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2007, 10:26:04 pm »
In the case of beats, it's usually less due to respect and more due to the fact that they know you'll give them back :P

As for respect, it varies from person to person on how you get it. For me, I respect people for their ability and actions (even if I don't like those actions or the results of those actions). However, the ability or actions usually have to be impressive (not just something any person can get up and do). I don't attach like or dislike to respect.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2007, 10:32:09 pm by Xordan »

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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2007, 10:32:54 pm »
I would not know, I'm pretty much a loner :/.


Anyway people who tend to make themselves known, get noticed by more people. People who just stand back dont get noticed as much.
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Re: Respect
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2007, 10:46:42 pm »
Being respected is not the same thing as being well known, being well liked, being admired, or being feared.

I tend to respect people who treat others as equals.  I also tend to feel respect for people who speak with maturity, sincerity, and insight, and people who act wisely rather than impulsively.  One could argue that this is all more or less the same thing, but I think it all comes together to create something above the sum of the parts.  You could also argue that things like "maturity" and "insight" are incredibly subjective, but if the question is what brings you to respect someone, then it's your personal values that matter.

Nurahk's question was "How does one gain the respect of others?".  I think that it depends on who you're dealing with.  With the situation at the party that Nurahk described, I might say that gaining respect means standing up for yourself without putting down others.  Knowing what needs to be said and when to say it.  Knowing when to take a punch also comes into it, but it depends on who you're trying to impress.  If a bunch of guys come and kick the snot out of you, people who see it happen might develope a greater sense of respect for you if you stand up after it with your head held high.  The guys who beat you up may fear you, but fear is not the same as respect.



« Last Edit: January 27, 2007, 11:05:41 pm by zanzibar »
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Re: Respect
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2007, 11:11:33 pm »
I'd like to see what you people think.  Mainly Zanzibar and Emerald, for some odd reason.

Haha, you just wanna watch us argue :P


This puzzles me, my friend is a nice guy, well built.  I'm an insult spewing brat who barely works out and keeps barely fit.  Yet, I get tons of respect, unbelievable amounts.  People come up to me and ask me what to do, people trust me with their problems, people step out of my way.

Anyways, the question is, what is respect?  How do you get it?

My personal opinion is that you get more respected when you respect others as "lessers" and can back it up.

Hehe, we call 'em 'Birthday Bashings'


I dunno, personally I find the concept of 'respect' to be a bit of a grey-area. Is it fear, or reverence, or simply acknowledgment of one's character? For me, I respect people for their personality - I like friendly people, and view unfriendly or sadistic people as lesser human beings... (Oddly enough, morals aren't that important to me. I'd be best friends with a criminal if he was a nice guy...)


Anyway, I'm inclined to agree with Xordan - you don't birthday-bash someone unless you like them and you feel comfortable doing so.

If people are avoiding someone, it's more likely because they're getting anti-social vibes off them, rather than doing it out of respect. ('Course it sounds like that don't apply to you, with people actively confiding in you and all that)




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I also tend to feel respect for people who speak with maturity, sincerity, and insight, and people who act wisely rather than impulsively.

Edit: Geez, now I see why I annoy Zanzi so much :P

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Re: Respect
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2007, 11:14:55 pm »
I often disagree with what you say, and I think you sometimes word things without regard to something or other I feel you should be sensitive to.  It's just differences of opinion on the most part.





If someone tried to give me a birthday beating, they'd be on the floor in some sort of lock rather quickly.  That's just me though.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2007, 11:20:16 pm »
I often disagree with what you say, and I think you sometimes word things without regard to something or other I feel you should be sensitive to.  It's just differences of opinion on the most part.





If someone tried to give me a birthday beating, they'd be on the floor in some sort of lock rather quickly.  That's just me though.

I disagree with what you say because most of what you say is designed to win arguments and appear intelligent and knowledgeable, rather than warm and friendly :P


And if 12 people tried to give you birthday bashings, you'd be pretty screwed, mon amie ;D

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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2007, 01:02:05 am »
I never really grasped the concept of respect. I never think of people I personally know in terms of respect. I can like or dislike people, or consider them friends or not. Respect is something I rather connect with actions, or with people who I only know by their actions.
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Re: Respect
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2007, 05:12:30 am »
I agree with zanzibar that fear isn't respect... many people seem to think it is though.

Earning the respect depends on who you're dealing with, if it's someone who'd been an outcast all his life he'd probably respect that you are who you are from the start... and that you're different... I'd have to think a bit more and not be tired to tell about other ways to earn respect <.< and not be missing pips :p
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Re: Respect
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2007, 10:58:43 am »
In my group of freinds I'm respected I guess. Other than that I'm a loner. But i seem to have some level of respect. people dont bug me, the ones that try  stop after a short while and cant look me in the eyes. Then again most people who dont know me seem uneasy around me hehe. You can see it in their eyes. maybe thats why. I tend to look people strait inthe eye. I dont think people are used to that, you can look at them, you can look them in the face, but in the eyes is a differant matter all together.
 

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2007, 11:04:00 am »
I think respect is envy to a degree. You see that they are better than you and you respect them, and that may even be you see they aren't as good as you at something but they take that fact better than you would, so you envy and respect them.

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Re: Respect
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2007, 01:47:45 pm »
I think respect is envy to a degree. You see that they are better than you and you respect them, and that may even be you see they aren't as good as you at something but they take that fact better than you would, so you envy and respect them.

It can be, but there are other reasons why you might respect someone other than them just being better than you at something. Does that mean that if I'm better than you at everything that I automatically don't respect you?


I respect the dead. Does that mean I envy the dead? Does that mean I think the dead are cool people (no pun intended :P), or that I'm afraid the dead are going to come back and get me if I diss them? No, I respect them because that's what my parents taught me to do.

I think respect can come from anywhere, but stems from your personality.

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2007, 04:06:14 pm »
You respect them because you where told to respect them by someone you respect... So why do you respect your parents?

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Re: Respect
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2007, 06:41:14 pm »
You respect them because you where told to respect them by someone you respect... So why do you respect your parents?

I don't, really :P