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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2007, 04:52:59 pm »
Hah, no, you don't understand at all.
There's no single dev team that "makes the glyphs".
Firstly, there's a settings member who thinks up what the glyph should do, what it should look like, what it's spells should be.
Then an artist comes around and makes the glyph mesh, the glyph symbol, textures.
Then another artist comes around and makes the spell effects.
Then a coder comes around and writes the script to make the spells have effect.
After that another coder needs to take care of the magic system itself.
And after that a settings member needs to write a quest to get the glyph in-game, only the story.
Then somebody else needs to make the quest script.
And then someone needs to add the NPCs and make sure the script are all-right in the database.

So as you can see, there's not a single member who "controls the glyphs".

Yes, I know how it works. My point is, someone had time to create the EFFECTS of a half dozen new glyphs/spells in the last two months. That same person could have instead modified the EFFECTS of Freeze, Weakness, Darkness, Rock Armor, Defensive Wind and Meteor spells so they were actually useful.

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In the same way, the team that writes the quests is in no way responsible for faulty code.
Conclusion: you can't just "move people around" or blame someone.

Of course. That's why I never suggested that people who write quests change faulty code. That would be silly.

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Because I have other interests than writing a game, but thank you for the suggestion. Perhaps I'll consider it in the future. ;)

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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #61 on: February 02, 2007, 05:15:37 pm »
A rebalancing of all magic is in the works already.
You might not realize it, but balancing is a lot more work then just changing some values in a formula...
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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2007, 07:46:47 pm »
lol guess i picked a good time to stop playing. anyways i believe i know who did it.

and it was thru a glitch in the game. but this person also reported it months ago. guess its a little teaching example for devs being lazy. =)

now i know this is a free game and the devs do it in their spare time. and we should all be grateful that they did this. but there are people like this that play games. i for one am happy to see it and anticipate a major wipe. it would create far more roleplaying.

maybe the devs should learn from this. that you cant just create an unstable game and put it out there and expect everything to run smooth. since i started playing i saw little development. most development was in a new hat, or a new weapon or a funny looking animation. some minor bugs were worked out, but not nearly a good amount which, in my opinion this should be the main thing thats worked out. i hope the devs understand what happend and dont get angry but laugh it off. and i hope this doesnt make me sound like the one who did it... i havent played in quite a while.

also this will really test everyone who thinks they are good at rping. before the wipe. think about it. everyones rich, everyones got the best weapons and with a little training they can take on people with maxed stats. so how do you rp where its not settled with trias or a duel? thats a question that will take this game way further in rping.
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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #63 on: February 02, 2007, 08:00:42 pm »
I see no need whatever for a total wipe. A full inventory/money wipe that left the characters intact would remove all non training-related ill-gotten gains. One done right away when the problem was discovered would've elimated those too.

A full wipe is- IMO- totally uncalled for.
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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2007, 08:05:20 pm »
Hello everyone, bet your guessing who i am, Well in short, i am the Vigilante that Brought the Weapons and money to the land
of Yliacom. I would like everyone to know why i have done this.. First this bug that has been known for some time now was
allowed to continue, more and more people learning it while less and less spoke of it, this problem was not a single person
making weapons and money for himself, this was many people throughout the game. no one spoke of it
yet many used it. by doing what i did, i accomplished my mission in getting that bug fixed. as for the economy.. it has been
ruined for some time now, i have watched SW ss's that used to be worth millions going for 50k each for some time now this is madness.
What i have done has done no where near what damage has already been done by the Duplication and bug use over the previous MONTHS,
covering the land in silverweaves and tria was a very small tast of what had already been done.i know of a few players have quit due to this bug and its effect.
and yet nothing was being done to remedy it, this cause may not justify my actions, however the results speak for themselves.
i do not ask forgiveness for what i have done, i know it was wrong. but what of all those who did the same things
for themselves and kept the money or weapons? are they not just as guilty? [looks at all those he KNOWS have been using this
bug] you know who you are and you can punish yourselves thinking about it.I have kept nothing i only used it to bring this
problem to every ones attention. i will name no one. Let it be known there are bugs that allow stats to be increased and hold
at that level as well, but since there was no way to run around throwing out 100 in crystal way and 800 in red way, i
couldn't do that part. so then i write this in hope that will also get addressed as quickly and before
the new version, I personally feel a full wipe should be done, it is the only way to correct the damage that was done by
these exploits long before my making them completely public, as they should have been from the start.
Also it was not the Game that was ruined by this, it was the exploit and bug use that was ruined. those crying are often
those affected most deeply by it. TO all of those that blame me for using this bug? know that i have done nothing prior
to this to use it, but i feel all those that have owe everyone a huge apology. they tore apart our economy and made those
Honest players look like fools as they paid for weapons that were so easily Exploited, All in all i hope this whole thing
makes for a better game and perhaps a bit faster response on bug reports of this Magnitude in the future hopefully they will
save the Game from a repeat of what is now history.




Farewell all,
and enjoy the game

Your Vigilante

P.S.  A full wipe would be called for because of stat bugs that allow a permenent boost.


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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2007, 08:10:11 pm »
Trying to fight a bug by using it, hmm nice work *sarcasm*

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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2007, 08:12:35 pm »
I believe it's called a "tiger team". Except this one was unauthorized.

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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2007, 08:15:50 pm »
I cant say I blame him for doing it, if that many people knew about it for that long and nothing was done. Now I know why there were a few key people who always seemed to have the best weponds and an abundace of trias. I had a hard time understanding how some people where able to aquire a million tria in the same time it took me to get 50K.

Looks like a good time for a few changes. We all will now have to suffer because of the blaitant defiance of the rules by the idiots who used the exploits. Undoubtedly they will have no remorse and will eagerly look for new ways to cheat the system. I will invite those individuals to take this time to find a new game to exploit, and leave PS for those who enjoy actually playing the game without the need to cheat.
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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2007, 08:21:44 pm »

A full wipe is- IMO- totally uncalled for.

spoken like a true PLer.

are you all that mad? what he did was actually good for the game. thats not the only glitch that you can use. in my eyes what he did was right. how do you fix a problem when the ones in charge wont? you take action. and show them what happens when they worry more about a cool new helmet. rather than something that can hurt the game. but then again this didnt hurt anyone who plays this game for rping. infact it gives them more of a challenge. i applaud this dude. he did the only thing to get the problem fixed. i have known about the bug for a while, as have alot of people i know. he is not the only one. he is the only one who made it public. everyone else sat back and cheated their way to being rich, without making a sound. now i never used the glitch, mainly because my charactor was all about rp. i did not glory in money, or weapons. but the respect i gained from other rpers. one of whom who kept me on the track of rping was Einnol. but anyways, just wanted to give a shout out, this is rediculous everyone is so mad. big deal.. your not the richest anymore, you dont have the best weapon. you still have the ability to talk and rp. if you want to be rich and have the best weapon and power level, play SRO. those who rp should be happy about this, and if a wipe needs to be done.... so be it, you cant wipe someones rp skills....

I believe it's called a "tiger team". Except this one was unauthorized.
mine as well say it was autorized and legal.... the devs knew about it for months and nothing changed =) seems like they gave this guy the goahead.
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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2007, 08:21:55 pm »
This bug is the reason I stopped playing ...

That and the spellweave bug the dark red potion bug.

Come on these have been around monthes thru 2 updates.

Stop addin new stuff and fix this serious stuff.

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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2007, 08:28:27 pm »
the bug was known for months by the devs ....

it was reported and shown to them .. they should have fixed it before a thing like this could happen!!!

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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2007, 08:31:34 pm »
the bug was known for months by the devs ....

it was reported and shown to them .. they should have fixed it before a thing like this could happen!!!

No one is disputing that, least of all me.

However nuking your own country because you know it to be defenseless against attack to "prove a point" is treason just the same.
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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #72 on: February 02, 2007, 08:33:26 pm »
* steuben shakes his head.
though i can blame him. he made the choice. he could have filed the report. but he chose not to.

it will probably be a while before he is welcome around here.


a foolish foolish stunt.
he has tried to dress his actions as those that would be benefical for the community. and really, it fails. really in how many other places would such actions as these be tollerated. or even accepted.

if he really wanted to make for a better game. we all know where the bug tracker is and the dev app forms.

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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2007, 08:38:59 pm »
steuben ... this bug was posted in the bugtracker months ago

and those who found the bug told it striaght away to the devs!!!!

why didnt they act? they knew about it and they knew it would destroy the whole ps economy!!!

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Re: All hail the collapse of the economy!
« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2007, 08:40:05 pm »
I think it's great when the economy gets flooded with money.  It gives everyone a chance to try features of the game that they haven't previously explored.
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