Open letter to Planeshift Team and to players

[emeraldfool]

I thought that I had.  but no matter I have moved from frustration to acceptance. So it is a mute point for me.
the frustration is less from wipes. a wipe is expected and generally accepted. I know of people who have made suggestion, real one, instead of a response of we will consider your idea or not response at all. They where laughed at. No reasonable person expects the dev to respond to every suggestion, we dont expect to be laugh at or scoffed. when the anvil thing was happening I was there. we pointed out exactly what was happening and at what point in the process the crashed was happening. It was like pulling teeth to be heard. it took us half an hour just to convince someone it was the anvil not the trade function. Thank you Venge. for hearing us. some of the devs do listen. that is my personal experience. I have heard similar from other people. to get anyone to listen to us is like pulling teeth. It is frustrating' because we care and have to fight to be heard. We know the devs are working on off hours I think it is awesome that ps exists. a testament to real RPers. We are willing to be testers, if only we where allowed to be.

Again, Devs and GMs aren't paid to listen. They have no motivation to help you other than the goodness in their heart, and their devotion to 'Planeshift'.

The devs/GMs are just people. Maybe some of them have even lost their spark for the job after a few years. Who knows? The point is, you can't expect them to pledge their lives to helping you solve an anvil-related crafting-glitch in a 10%-finished free internet game. That's just not humanly possible.

[Eid]

when that anvilproblem crashed the entire game it affect a lot more than just those using the anvil

[emeraldfool]

when that anvilproblem crashed the entire game it affect a lot more than just those using the anvil

Again; not life-pledging material, Eid.

[Gwinn Ravenn]

If we are really testers. and devs are on, they are available. this glitch was causing the server to crash in a big way. We figured out what was causing the problem and in what part of the process. I can code. I know how valuable that information is. it helps them to know where exactly to look in mounds and mounds of coding. it makes fixing an issue faster.  No the devs are not Paid to listen to us they are not paid at all. I am not nor will I ever belittle their efforts. However, It is emensly frustrating to think your there to help them, you know exactly how hard it is to search for code, you tell them the problem that they where already trying to fix BTW is with this issue. you know from reading in irc they are looking in the wrong place. You say it is with this aspect at this point in the process. and they argue with you cuz your not a dev so you obviously dont know what your talking about. then after you stand guard over the anvil so no one can use it. then send a message watch we are using the anvil it is going to do X y and z then crash.. and lo and behold it dose. still your ignored untill another dev loggs on and listens. that is emensly fustrating. no they are not paid to listen we do not pay too play but  buying into the idea we are there to help as testers it does no good.

[emeraldfool]

No offence, but maybe it's your communicative skills that are the problem...

[Gwinn Ravenn]

I will take that response for what it is. Communication IS a two way street. I am not misunderstood often.

[emeraldfool]

I will take that response for what it is. Communication IS a two way street. I am not misunderstood often.

Well, you do make a lot of spelling errors, lack punctuation and speak in a rather disorganised manner...

[Eid]

as most do in forums 

[zanzibar]

All the times that a wipe happens we *all* move back to the stoneage.

Your character is not your inventory.

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Esserfin, what you're asking for is rampant favouritism.  As a member of the Dragon Council and as someone who's been playing the game for a considerable period of time, I can understand why you feel you're at a level above the rest of the player base, but I also think it's pretty silly and unjustified.  There are a lot of trustworthy players.  There are a lot of oldtime players.  It's unfair and impractical of you to ask the staff to pick favourites.

Favoritism causes more problems then it creates.

*brain explodes*

The point that seems to be missed here it NOT the loss of items or money. The common point that has been voiced is the lack of respect, common human courtesy,  to any of the testers/players.

You had me up to the last two words.  There has been a lot of disrespect.... players such as yourself have been EXTREMELY disrespectful to the devs.  Try to be a bit more understanding a bit less selfish.

This game is not about making money.  And if you don't enjoy making money in the game, then why spend so much time doing it?

[Gwinn Ravenn]

well you may choose to reduce your comments to personal attack if you wish. It dose not matter to me.  But on this forum the font is very very small in the reply box, and no way to adjust it in the reply window. It makes thing difficult. You can reply to the actual point I have made or you can choose to focus on spelling and typos. My points are valid. My writing style is a result of the books I read.  many of them obscure. but I can be pithy when it is prudent.

[zanzibar]

Basically, PS is like a school, and the GMs and devs are like the teachers... I'm sure you've all been in a situation where a teacher has punished an entire class for one student's misbehavior. It's the same deal here.

 

No one has been punished.  This was not a punishment.

[emeraldfool]

The point I'm making here is, maybe the GMs or whomever you were so patiently explaining this to didn't respond properly because they weren't sure what you were rambling on about...


I'm not trying to 'attack' you. I don't dislike you at all. I'm merely stating a completely objective hypothesis based on my observation of your methods of expression.

I've read your points, and I understand them, I'm just wondering if you've considered everything...

[ Let's not draw out spelling checks. --Kary ]


(Awww man, that took me ages to do...)

[Garon]

Favoritism causes more problems then it creates.

*brain explodes*

Favoritism causes more problems then it solves too   And it also causes more problems then it creates; as the problems are created initially, it then expounds upon that exponentially creating more problems as those are solved until the favoritism ends.  And so your brain can reform, confident that even though it exploded, what shouldn't have made sense does and it can now deplode itself.

Basically, PS is like a school, and the GMs and devs are like the teachers... I'm sure you've all been in a situation where a teacher has punished an entire class for one student's misbehavior. It's the same deal here.

I've been in those situations, I've also gotten those teachers in a mountain of trouble with their bosses   A bad analogy, as we aren't being punished here, and the topic isn't about the wipe, it's about how it was handled and how it sort of alienated players.  I think it was created by bad communication and a number of people seeming rather uncaring in their "get over it"-esk comments.

[Esserfin]

As a member of the Dragon Council and as someone who's been playing the game for a considerable period of time, I can understand why you feel you're at a level above the rest of the player base, but I also think it's pretty silly and unjustified.

Vue that you stated that 'people around thinks to me as a god' i can only remain in a level down than your  Shalmaneser

 

[zanzibar]

In english, cause essentially means the same thing as create.  "I caused this problem" means the same thing as "I created this problem", so "I caused more problems than I created" is mathematically impossible.

As a member of the Dragon Council and as someone who's been playing the game for a considerable period of time, I can understand why you feel you're at a level above the rest of the player base, but I also think it's pretty silly and unjustified.

Vue that you stated that 'people around thinks to me as a god' i can only remain in a level down than your  Shalmaneser

Oh Esserfin, that's because I am a god to my followers.  Don't worry, worship of me is well deserved.






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