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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #135 on: February 20, 2007, 04:53:16 am »
 You can only be kidding, lordraleigh, I mean, nobody is that blind to not see the difference between "Dark Empire" and "Gangrel Hobbits of Cania Punk Gang", whatever true point you were aiming at, there must've been a better way to demonstrate it. Let's see what the wiktionary says about the word "dark" for a moment though, as to prove you that judging the Dark Empire as evil cause of it's name is wrong.

 
Quote from: Wiktionary

   1. Having an absolute or (more often) relative lack of light.

          The room was too dark for reading.

   2. Hidden, secret

          "Meantime we shall express our darker purpose" (Shakespeare, King Lear, i 1).

   3. Without moral or spiritual light; sinister, malign.

   4. (of colour) Dull or deeper in hue; not bright or light.

          My sister's hair is darker than mine.
          Her skin grew dark with a suntan.


 So, who tells you we aren't simply dark cause we haven't got light? (First meaning, which you should have by default.) We're an Empire with no current feudal (in the sense of land) owning, so we're pretty in the dark, pretty empty handed of the future we'll have, pretty the darkness before the dawn of our own greatness, though I don't want to bet on darkness breaking images, as to even with greatness, which we already have, we won't stop being the Dark Empire. We don't bound ourselves to an alignment, as others do using their alignment as an argument to justify their actions or the lack of them. We simply act and only do so according to our own values and ideals.

 I can't really see what you're panicking about. You're taking us quite serious, aren't you? As you should. But as to why you're actually afraid, is another thing, I can't see what you're trying to defend. But one thing you can rest assure, lovely commoners, those with no sins have nothing to fear.

 Edit: On a second thought, you might be discussing the Dragon Council, as to that I'm simply clueless to why you're going off-topic and participating on off-topic, you really want to keep this thread alive, eh? The post I made still stands for the majority of it, though not as a counter-argument to you, lordraleigh. Many people go judging the Dark Empire just cause of it's name, though the DC does have a somewhat ooc name (which is discussable, PS has reptiles, and in medieval times people said those to be dragons, still didn't make them real, no reason why we can't simply go calling big and strong reptiles dragons, as an adaptation of a term to our reality).
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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #136 on: February 20, 2007, 07:35:37 am »
*grabs flamers hand and does a wave, chanting kumbyah*  :-X
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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #137 on: February 20, 2007, 01:34:47 pm »
Volund, seems you don't know what flaming is. No one here is snapping at the other, we're merely exchanging points of view in a civilized way.

Actually, the post you've just typed is the worst kind of post. It's boring and it actually inspires flaming. Because it sounds like a whine and it's an unfair critic to this discussion of ours.

Anyways, either you people discuss the Dark Empire, or you don't discuss anything here. This is the Dark Empire discussion thread. Make your point, if you do have one, or question us about anything you'd like that has to do with the Dark Empire. If you don't feel like doing any of these, check another thread.
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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #138 on: February 28, 2007, 03:29:42 am »
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Volund, seems you don't know what flaming is.

joking. Now that is personal attacks S.
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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #139 on: February 28, 2007, 04:03:13 am »
Volund, please keep useless posts out of this thread.  Especialy if you are replying to something said 7 days ago.

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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #140 on: March 02, 2007, 06:24:21 pm »
What's so bad about replying to a post that's 7 days old.. a reply is a reply isn't it?  Though you're right, it didn't really contribute anything useful.

As for the dictionary/wiktionary referencing posts, dark can mean a lot of things, but judging on the secretive nature of the guild... and the typical reasons for being secretive, it would be assumed that they have sinister intentions behind them.

It's also funny how people will use dictionary references in an argument... some will aim for one definition... and demand you fit in with that because you used that word and therefore must fit definition number X. --- Another will cover all definitions to try to disprove your reasonable assumptions about them, pointing out that number Z means something completely different.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2007, 06:29:57 pm by drah »

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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #141 on: March 02, 2007, 06:27:35 pm »
There is a rule on "bumping" a thread with useless messages and another one on "ressurrecting" a dead thread I think.

If you want to practice necromancy, make a character in Planeshift with high skills on dark way, not an undead thread.

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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #142 on: March 02, 2007, 06:31:38 pm »
I'm just explaining that the secretive nature of the guild is what would suggest to others that the guild is inherently evil.

EDIT: never mind... wasn't directed at my post, sorry :)



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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #143 on: March 02, 2007, 06:32:46 pm »
necromencery is implememented in ps!?! ::|

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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #144 on: March 02, 2007, 06:46:35 pm »
It's actually Crystal Way that raises the dead and no, it is not implemented.
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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #145 on: March 02, 2007, 11:16:09 pm »
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I'm just explaining that the secretive nature of the guild is what would suggest to others that the guild is inherently evil.

 Well, I think the Empire, considering it as an union of the guilds it is currently, has as much secretiveness as any other normal guild (of each category, the Imperial Trades will have economic-related secrets as any other guild of that category, and so on). Maybe with the growth of the Imperial Trades and the foundation of both the Imperial Guard and the Imperial Scholars in-game, people's idea of the Empire's "secretiveness" will change.

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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #146 on: March 02, 2007, 11:41:12 pm »
Every Empire guild has public and non-public parts, this also counts for the Empire as a whole, just look at the Agency.
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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #147 on: March 02, 2007, 11:50:16 pm »
Or better yet, don't look at the Agency.  Best to keep your sanity.

And yes, I understand you completely, drah, it's what makes my job so much harder than it should be.  But, maybe one day, people will understand that Dark != Evil.

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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #148 on: March 03, 2007, 07:53:48 pm »
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It's also funny how people will use dictionary references in an argument... some will aim for one definition... and demand you fit in with that because you used that word and therefore must fit definition number X. --- Another will cover all definitions to try to disprove your reasonable assumptions about them, pointing out that number Z means something completely different.

Wouldn't call it funny and think it was used here how it should be. To proof that it can have several meanings and that you shouldn't just asume one when others could work aswell.

Showing only one definition of the word while infact there are several when quoting a dictionary is infact misleading.
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Re: Dark empire discussion
« Reply #149 on: March 08, 2007, 07:25:25 pm »
Is the dark empire a chaotic guild? The imperialists I meet in game seem unusually civil, and the name Dark Empire, sounds like it would be a chaotic guild.


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