I don't really care that there are other ways to do things. I'm just saying that our way isn't evil. There being a few or even many merchants who aren't greedy doesn't make those who are evil.
So far, by your reckoning, almost every army/armed force is evil because the threaten their members. Pretty much every business is evil because they are greedy. Police forces are also evil...
You know what, let's go with a shorter list. The people who don't fall into evil by your reasoning:
Jesus.
(Then again. According to your tyranny thing. He never did make rules about him not being able to use his powers against everything...so he's a bit on the border there.)
Long list.
Lawful Evil
These characters believe in using society and its laws to benifit themselves. Structure and organization elevate those who deserve to rule as well as provide a clearly defined hierarchy between master and servant. To this end, lawful evil characters support laws and societies that protect their own concerns. If someone is hurt or suffers because of a law that benifits lawful evil characters, too bad. Lawful evil characters obey laws out of fear of punishment. Because they may be forced to honor an unfavorable contract or oath they have made, lawful evil characters are usually very careful about giving their word. Once given, they break their word only if they can find a way to do it legally, within the laws of the society. An iron-fisted tyrant and a devious, greedy merchant are examples of lawful evil beings.
Do I really need to say more?
And personally, I know lots of people who don't threaten others or are overly greedy. Actually, personally I don't really know any people who are doing such things.
Police that just follows its orders is lawful-neutral, no matter whether the orders are "bad" or "good". Nice of you to put words into my mouth, but believe me, I can do that myself.
Just one more thing, during the Cabal era, Dark Empire was openly proclaiming itself to be lawful-evil, though ooc'ly. Still, our relations with ingame people were simply superb. In time most guilds (even the good ones) had no problem with the Empire, sometimes even agreeing to stand side by side. In fact, some people have seen us as protectors. No one organised anything against us whatsoever. Now the thing is, back then role-playing was on a much lower level than it is today. I'm interested in how your argument is exactly supposed to work.
Today there's this general opinion of quite a few Hydlaa people (not only from those who oppose DE)
- Dark Empire members either have ill intentions, or are too naive to see what Dark Empire is about.
- Many people aren't fine with the Dark Empire. Most are too afraid to stand against it.
Alright. Dealing with this...again.
Devious, Greedy merchant. I'd never call Donari that, infact, she tried to raise the price for gold and thus have the miners earn more and her earn less. The rest of Yliakum was against this. Sure, she's out to get tria when she can, but she's only as devious as the position requires and only as greedy as is understandable.
I've yet to see somebody in the Empire be called an "iron-fisted tyrant" so I'll just let that drop.
Next you use adjectives to your benefit "Overly greedy", I don't see overly in your definition of Lawful Evil there, Draklar. So, one can assume you know people who are greedy, seeing as that usualy implies devious (one must be devious to aquire as much as possible) I'm assuming you know some lawful evil people.
Nothing Donari has done has harmed others. She hasn't stolen tria from competition in any form. You're argument here lies solely on the fact that she wants tria...she's a merchant, Draklar, you'll find that many of them do.
Moving on....
I've no idea what you are talking about with the Cabal era. Perhaps you could quote it to refreshen my memory.
And the general opinion.
A thousand people can believe something that is wrong. Doesn't change whether or not it's wrong (Except in the case of language
)
As for the latter remark, I'm guessing you've run into five or so people and so stated that "Many people" aren't fine. Most are, most don't actually really care one way or the other. The Empire tries to keep to itself for the most part. Recruiting and expanding, as all guilds do at this point.
Overall, Draklar. You're calling the Empire evil, maybe we are a little bit, I doubt it. But you've yet to give IC reasons that are substantial for hating the Empire.
To be blunt, Draklar. You came back to PS (OOCly) and joined the Empire (ICly), on the forums there you had a long dispute over the word brethren (OOCly), from there, me and you had a bit of a fight over personal matters (OOCly), Draklar then left the Empire, seemingly for no reason and started disliking it.
That's a bit iffy RP.
You then created Magnir, Magnir is a new character who hates the Empire for...no reason I can think of. In fact, he's the Empresses son (Or so you say).
So you came back. Didn't like what you saw OOCly and so decided to fight us ICly. That's why I said mediocre
at best.
I don't know about the rest of the people who are against the Empire at the moment. I imagine they have some reason to dislike us somewhat. But, there is no reason for the Empire hate that is going on presently. You've still failed to bring up a point that even somewhat justifies it.
