Dark empire discussion

[Zan]

Feline Prince, can you explain to me how a big and powerful organisation is a threat to ones individuality? Or even better .. how fighting against such an organisation would make it less threatening?

[Feline Prince]

Well eventually that organisation will become so big that it is all encompassing. Therefore anyone fighting it is considered a rebel. For your second question... If something is a threat you fight it to get rid of that threat.

[Raleigh]

@Sangwa: It's not like most guilds have survived for more than 5 years, so this is something that comes naturally for those who persist and work their way through the years. And finally, if my intention was to simply rant, I would have lowered my tone to the level that is only one step above a flame. Also you might not see it, but for me this "promotion" and defensive discourse is getting as or perhaps more repetitive than the accusations people make about the DE. So lets leave at that and depart to other areas of interest.

And @Feline Prince, don't forget there is a strong government in Yliakum, so it's not quite as simple to "take control of society" as you would expect. Remember also that the population of Yliakum in the Settings would be much more than the average 200 - 300 characters online in PS, that I can guess that are less than 0,1% of the whole population. So, all in all, there is no guild that could really pose a threat there right now. Except if there is some kind of cabal somewhere, because such activities never require huge amounts of people to suceed, but instead they require power, wealth, influence and the most important of all, secrecy.

[zanzibar]

So, all in all, there is no guild that could really pose a threat there right now. Except if there is some kind of cabal somewhere, because such activities never require huge amounts of people to suceed, but instead they require power, wealth, influence and the most important of all, secrecy.

Secrecy is important, but don't forget charisma, audacity, and a common sense of purpose.

[Zan]

The Empire is hardly all encompassing ... I'm certain that there are guilds who have more than the double amount of members than all Imperial Guilds combined. The Empire's strength lies in the dedication if it's men and women and it's organised leadership. People should be seeing it as an example instead of a threat.

And when something is a potential threat .. it's often smarter not to draw it's attention so that it becomes a very real threat by your own actions.

[Feline Prince]

Hence what Nurahk said. They have drawn attention and been threatened with a fight back.

[Zan]

Now you're just mixing things up

To fight back .. one has to be attacked first.

[Feline Prince]

I meant verbally.

[Raleigh]

I don't use swords to fight back against those who attacked me with words.

[Feline Prince]

YOU don't.

[zanzibar]

YOU don't.

Nor should he, or anyone.

[Nurahk]

Feline Prince is correct in stating that people may see an organization as a threat, perhaps not so much to individuality but, to freedom and equality.  Not so far off.
Much like a monopoly if you will.

He is also correct is assuming people would fight back, the Empire has been attacked both Verbally and Physically and, unlike what most people seem to believe, this has been going on for months.  It's probably more a permanent thing than anything else.

I don't expect to defeat it completely, just render it insignificant until the next time it comes along.

I was half hoping that my taking a break would help but, if anything, it just gave the threats false hope and so they slipped out of their secrecy, so far, only to be beaten.

To make things clear:  The Empire has been fighting this for a while, it's been winning the whole time.  I'm just getting tired of it.

[Feline Prince]

Which is the first step towards being defeated. Most interesting thing would be to wage war against the lot of them. Woo! Not exactly your style though?

[Nurahk]

I don't like bloodshed, actualy.  So no, not my style.

[Raleigh]

What is your style then?

In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it, to capture a regiment, a detachment or a company entire than to destroy them.

Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.

Pretty impressive, no? But it's not so easy to achieve as it is to write about.