The Winch -- What are they thinking?

[Asalya]

ahhh yes, I could attempt that  thank you Karyuu!

[zanzibar]

Asalya, is there any way you can try starting that quest with an alt character, and then transfer the item to your main?

This works.  It's a pain, especially when you need to do a number of quests just to get the quest which provides the necessary item, but it does work.

[Leafmint]

Old Raithen used to be way high on my hate list. Right next to Jayose who ive never forgiven for calling me a mud-dobber. But man, when you eventually get it all done and that final quest rolls round.... The feeling is magic. If you dont have winch access yet, just keep doing them quests... Its worth it.

[Teraree]

Xilix said :

There are now multiple ways to get into the winch, the pms can stop. Work it out people. I would rather be writing new material than tending to your troubles on an individual basis.

i agree there there are multiple ways, i know 2 atm,the only thing is i discarded quests needed for both a long time ago and i can never have the needed quests again ....is there a 3rd way to enter the winch ? or any other solution to help me with that ?

[Jeraphon]

is there a 3rd way to enter the winch ? or any other solution to help me with that ?

I can confirm that there is a third way.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

if you have tangled yourself in multiple quests i cannot help you anymore only a wipe will help you. Players need to realize this is not a settings problem. I have too much to do to aid you on an individual level anymore. you may relay your problems through the bug tracker. I have worked like a dog to make this better and have aided many. It seems no one cares once they get what they wanted and then it is just a matter of time before they are on to the next complaint. I tire of it. Until we can make it so it is impossible for you to take more than one quest at a time and make a general quest wipe you will have to police yourselves or deal with the mess you are in.

Try to have fun regardless.

That is all.

[cyber]

Actually a quest wipe might not be a bad idea.... Just not a total wipe of stats ect. I would say give some warning tho so ppl could collect their notes on teh quests that they have done... however that is not even necessary I guess 

[Pale]

I'd collect all in-game-saved notes sharpish actually, as a new release has been threatened to drop late April/early May, and from what I've seen release upgrades wipe quest notes :] Just a warning. I was slightly put out when I got the latest version after a few months break, and released all my notes had been lost.

[zanzibar]

I'd collect all in-game-saved notes sharpish actually, as a new release has been threatened to drop late April/early May, and from what I've seen release upgrades wipe quest notes :] Just a warning. I was slightly put out when I got the latest version after a few months break, and released all my notes had been lost.

We're getting a new release right now, actually.  That's why the server is down.

[Nicana]

I'd collect all in-game-saved notes sharpish actually, as a new release has been threatened to drop late April/early May, and from what I've seen release upgrades wipe quest notes :] Just a warning. I was slightly put out when I got the latest version after a few months break, and released all my notes had been lost.

-shrug- I've never had any of my notes "stick" ... have had to do them all external to the game

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

You can find and spare your notes and shortcuts by going into your data files in ps folder and copying them out of the file then update then replace.

Anyone having good experiences with the winch these last few weeks?

[Nicana]

Anyone having good experiences with the winch these last few weeks?

-still trying  -

[bilbous]

Not me, I've got a few more quests to clear up before I can take on any new ones. I have yet to start looking for the secret door or rooftop pathway that will allow direct access, which is good as they probably do not exist. It would be nice if there was an unguarded side door whose lock I could practice picking, but I do not suppose that will exist either. I have managed to get through four or five of the quests I was stuck on but still have four or five on my list. Not working at them too hard. I spend most of my time training and trying to generate the cash to pay for it.

[Mornox]

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Anyone having good experiences with the winch these last few weeks?

Yes indeed!  Let me put it this way...

A long-lost friend of mine showed up, handed me an item identical to another one I had had.   I stared at it, puzzled a few minutes until I remembered what had happened the last time I had this item and handed it over for a fellow to look at.  This time would be different, I was sure of it.  After a rather lengthy chain of events I have found myself in the Winch, having followed the path of Dubious Virtue.  I've since counseled other afflicted folk who have enjoyed similar success!

Knowing the path of the Exemplary Citizen, and the path of Dubious Virtue, I wonder what the other path to the Winch involves.   Hrm...Merchants?  Magic?  I can only speculate.

[zanzibar]

Loading all maps and jumping in didn't work last time I tried it.