Duelers are good Roleplayers?

[Nurahk]

I really contradicted myself in that.
Death Realm is alright because, I'm not even sure if you can feel there.

As if it was alright that "*character* has killed himself", duels in the DR for some minutes and them quickly returns back to life as if escaping from the Death Realm was a piece of cake. It's more of an OOC fun than anything else.

And, as much as I agree with that, we can't expect people to roleplay the difficulty of the DR once they are down there.  But, your character should fear death, who knows what the DR is actualy supposed to be like.

[zanzibar]

I find duelists annoying. The amount of times people have stood in front of Harnquist spamming me with duel requests because my character insulted them...

Player1> Your helmet looks silly.
Player2> YOU DIE NOW

Cyrano de Bergerac, the Three Musketeers, Billy the Kid, Wyatt Earp ... Need I say more?

The Three Musketeers were not psychopathic killers.

Disregarding duels and separating them from RP is diminishing to RP itself.

Dueling is not the problem.  The problem is how people duel.

I guess you don't like being around atheletes or top competitors IRL either?

This is a roleplaying game.  Not counterstrike.  The goal isn't to become "#1 in the server".

Hmmm, yes, clearly you are a jock-hater.

I bet it burns you up that football players and boxers are also so-admired by most.

Hmm.  If by jock, you mean ignorant meat head who believes in date rape, then yes.  I don't care too much for such individuals.

If you mean someone who is competitive and good at something, then I think you need to expand your horizons beyond sports analogies.  Maybe rock stars.  Hey Valorius, do you see yourself as a rock star?

I'm one of the best duelers in Planeshift.  I just don't enjoy doing it when it's OOC and cheesy.  However, this is going off topic.

[lordraleigh]

I find duelists annoying. The amount of times people have stood in front of Harnquist spamming me with duel requests because my character insulted them...

Player1> Your helmet looks silly.
Player2> YOU DIE NOW

Worse my case:

Suddenly, without any IC word said(And without OOC message either):

*player* challenged you to a duel, do you accept it?

Cyrano de Bergerac, the Three Musketeers, Billy the Kid, Wyatt Earp ... Need I say more?

The Three Musketeers were not psychopathic killers.

And if you gave a longsword to them, I doubt they would use it as well as a rapier. Combat skills for fighting in military conflicts are  different from the ones used for duels.

[Gharan]

I've just found this thread and yes I haven't read it all but I have to say what the hell is your problem Zanzibar? And don't label us as "duelers" truth be I havent dueled since the update. I agree that not all "duelers" RP but most of us do and actually enjoy the RP more than dueling, we get together in DR to duel occasionallly and yes this is OOC but to be frank it's just practice. Not all of my RP leads to duels but the majority do. Why you ask? That's simple. I'm an "evil" RPer so many tend to want to duel, in-fact 90% of the time it's them challenging me.

Don't categorise us it's insulting

[zanzibar]

I've just found this thread and yes I haven't read it all but I have to say what the hell is your problem Zanzibar?

I'm pretty sure I describe my problem in the first post of the thread.  I'm unhappy with the behaviour of certain characters in game.

[Gharan]

I do understand were you are coming from actually Zanzibar and when I started PS I knew nothing of RP and had never played an MMORPG, slowly I began to RP and now I love it. Some newer players are as I was, wanting to just fight basically all the time without any RP involved it all. Now i've read and understood your post I don't think your even talking about them I think your talking of players who have been around alot longer. I'm certainly not claiming that I haven't been in the DR for hours on end though by any means, because I have. Now though that's not the case and you won't find me fighting there, but that doesn't mean because my opinion changed on PvP in general that I will frown upon others doing so.

[zanzibar]

Well, I'm certainly glad you read and understood my post.

I'm not talking about people who have PVP fights in the death realm.  Though chances are, some of the people who do that are guilty of the things people are complaining about in this thread.  And fighting in the death realm is certainly an indication of the attitude behind this problem.  I think by this point though there are people who have described the problem even better than myself in this thread, so I'll leave you to read through their remarks.

[socia]

90% of people I know consider DR as ooc area...

that's all what I needed to say....

[Nurahk]

90% of the people you know are wrong about the DR

[zanzibar]

90% of people I know consider DR as ooc area...

that's all what I needed to say....

I'll try not to insult the people you know, so instead I'll ask you:  Why is the Death Realm out of character?  It's one of the most rich maps in the game in terms of atmosphere and history.  There's no reason I can think of to treat it as an "OOC is ok" zone.

[Gharan]

I actually agree with most comments, this is what happened to my one of my characters a few weeks ago and I was left wondering why they didn't use RP.

I was stood at North Gate, I was alone when I was approached by the five members of the same guild. From what I knew I had never offended them or doing something to there guild. They simply knew I wasn't the average nice person. Without warning or any RP whatsoever one-by-one they challenged. I wasn't going to turn them down (but I probably should of) and luckily killed the first two. Still no RP came and I started walking back into Hydlaa. Again I was challenged and luckily killed him. Then the first two I kill show back up and start challenging. That's when I stopped and walkedoff knowing how silly that is.

The point I'm trying to make is if 5 people try to grab me using RP then I was powerless, if they wanted me dead they had there chance.

[zanzibar]

Imagine how people will change their behaviour once the death realm is expanded ten-fold.

[Karyuu]

This is a thread warning: I don't enjoy being a babysitter and cleaning up after angry outbursts. If anyone feels like throwing out personal insults, do it in a place that won't mean more work for our moderators.

[Robinmagus]

But the entire existence of each character seems completely occupied with who’s angry at who, who killed who, who’s better at fighting than who, who’s disrespecting who, and so on.  It’s empty, shallow, and annoying to be around.

That's beautiful mate. I've been sayin this for a while, and usually can't stay active ingame too long because of RP like this, I mean come on, you've had your father get assassinated 15 times now, once by a groffel, it's enough!

And I can't wait till the DR is all huge like. It'll keep people from just fighting all the time.

[Holdan]

And I can't wait till the DR is all huge like. It'll keep people from just fighting all the time.

Well, it'll mainly keep people from jumping to /challenge

"ZOMG, that guy told me to shut up! ..DIEZ0r!"

/challenge

*boom boom smash*


seriously, you step on someone's foot and they run a sword through your gut.