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Cinerar

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I'm quiting
« on: February 21, 2007, 10:51:11 am »
HiHo, was playing for almost 3 weeks (I think at least 150 hours), but decided to quit. Things are changing very slow for me, I hope that development of this game will speed up. But I want give an advice to developers, love your community and Be Interested in your community Grow and try to learn to use resources of your community (not only resources of Developers). I will definitely check back later, but as for now, it is too Alpha for me. I spent two weeks to make myself familiar with quests, "economics", magic, and maps of this game, I even helped quite a bit of new ones to start with this game as a member of "Vespers of Laanx". But suddenly I found that there is nothing more to research in this game for me and "economics" don't work I think this is the main reason I quit.
Thank you all for all your work.
Farewell and Good Luck.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2007, 11:16:36 am »
Byes!

Hope to see you back in a few years maybes. :)

Thankies for the comments on why you left.  shows what areas need to be improved on.
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Re: I'm quiting
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2007, 07:21:51 pm »
Goodbye!

Quite a few of us have taken some time off from PS but we almost always find our way back to it.

I wouldn't expect PS to pick up its pace, I expect it to muddle forward relentlessly at the pace that it's going now. This game's development happens a lot slower than its commercial brothers and sisters but I doubt the project will ever come to an end. There is always more to improve and add. That's what I love about this game!

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Re: I'm quiting
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2007, 01:10:21 am »
Aww, this was a pretty good leaving thread actualy.

Hope to see you in a few years Cinerar.
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Re: I'm quiting
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2007, 06:27:40 pm »
It is certainly fine that Cinerar is leaving, of course.  99.9% of our 340,000 have left. :-)

Leaving because of slow progress though, is a shame, because his expectations are so unrealistic.  This project has been going about 7 years.  Compare that to Linux, which is more like 17 years.  I just heard last night that php has *1400* registered code committers, just for the language itself--not for the projects using the language.

Now compare it to commercial MMO projects.  NWN2 had a team of 121 full-time people, according to the credits.  WoW had over 300.  EQ2 has over 150.  Most of these take 4 years or so to actually release client 1, so that is 500-1000 man-years of time in those games.  To get to what they have.

We have like 15 guys, working in their spare time so perhaps 25% time instead of full-time, so we are a team with less than 1% of the capacity of the commercial teams.  I think we have a game which is more than 1% of what those games are. :-)

- Venge
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2007, 06:43:33 pm »
The difference is that you guys do it for the love of it (I assume), not for the monetary rewards. I think it makes you guys more likely to put your heart and soul into the work you produce rather than just working away to get the paycheck at the end of the week like in commercial MMOs.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2007, 07:11:25 pm »
Cya.
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Re: I'm quiting
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2007, 07:20:10 pm »
Quote from: Idoru on February 24, 2007, 06:43:33 pm
The difference is that you guys do it for the love of it (I assume), not for the monetary rewards. I think it makes you guys more likely to put your heart and soul into the work you produce rather than just working away to get the paycheck at the end of the week like in commercial MMOs.

Yeah, but you can't come to expect that. And I'm sure there's over 15 people who poured their heart and souls into WoW too. There's still that other 285 people that helped... If PS had 285 more people it'd be the next World of Warcraft ;)
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2007, 07:26:19 pm »
Trust me, The next World of Warcraft aint a good way to go ;o)
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Re: I'm quiting
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2007, 07:42:02 pm »
Quote from: emeraldfool on February 24, 2007, 07:20:10 pm
Yeah, but you can't come to expect that. And I'm sure there's over 15 people who poured their heart and souls into WoW too. There's still that other 285 people that helped... If PS had 285 more people it'd be the next World of Warcraft ;)

The ones who always pour their hearts and souls into a game project are the ones who had the initial idea and design of them.

Quote from: Idoru on February 24, 2007, 07:26:19 pm
Trust me, The next World of Warcraft aint a good way to go ;o)

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*Annera says: Hello there! I am Annera Klorn!
(You evaluate Annera won't require an effort to defeat)
*WoW PKer says: I wanna pwn u n00b!
*Annera shrugs "Another loonie, I am leaving"
*WoW PKer says: Stop this st00pid thing d00d! Lets have a PvP so I can pwn u!
*WoW PKer changes to an aggressive stance
*Annera was killed by WoW PKer
* lordraleigh cancels his account on Planeshift
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Re: I'm quiting
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2007, 07:59:58 pm »
Quote from: lordraleigh on February 24, 2007, 07:42:02 pm
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*Annera says: Hello there! I am Annera Klorn!
(You evaluate Annera won't require an effort to defeat)
*WoW PKer says: I wanna pwn u n00b!
*Annera shrugs "Another loonie, I am leaving"
*WoW PKer says: Stop this st00pid thing d00d! Lets have a PvP so I can pwn u!
*WoW PKer changes to an aggressive stance
*Annera was killed by WoW PKer
* lordraleigh cancels his account on Planeshift

I think we both meant in terms of popularity :P
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Re: I'm quiting
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2007, 04:01:33 am »
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If PS had 7.5 million more people it'd be the next World of Warcraft ;)

Fixed.

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Karyuu

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2007, 04:04:27 am »
I think Em meant developer-wise.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2007, 04:13:07 am »
ditto. Anyway, the next world of warcraft is DEFINANTLY not a good way to go. But hey, I'll cya later mate, and Venge, this is 150% better than those commercial games. Skin deep PvP and nuthin else. This is sweat, blood, tears. We have spent tired nights, we have [continue cool speech]

So yeah...


[By we I mean the dev team. Since I've been of little contribution]

[And by the Dev team I also mean those dedicates "playtesters"]
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Re: I'm quiting
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2007, 05:26:53 am »
we care more than you know to and know more than you care to  :woot:
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